Earnings go down, do they go up again?

Discussion in 'Reporting & Stats' started by tbarr60, May 22, 2005.

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Have your earnings dropped at any point?

  1. No, it's been constantly going up.

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    4.2%
  2. Yes, it went down but came back up.

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    54.2%
  3. Yes, it went down and stayed down.

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    20.8%
  4. Yes, it went down and continued to go down further.

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    12.5%
  5. I never had any earnings.

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    8.3%
  1. #1
    My earnings have gone up steadily over the last (almost) 2 years. In the last 10 days things have dropped about 30%. Have you experienced similar downturns?
     
    tbarr60, May 22, 2005 IP
  2. tom22

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    #2
    Yep, just give it a little time. It will go up again.
     
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  3. a389951l

    a389951l Must Create More Content

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    Wow 2 years of upticks - very nice. Mine flux a lot up & down but have been rising over a 30 day average for the past 6 months.
     
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  4. Crusader

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    #4
    My earnings fluctuate quite a lot. Recently it has taken a downwards slope, but now it seems to be rising again.
     
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  5. tbarr60

    tbarr60 Notable Member

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    #5
    Earnings going up required adding more sites, more content, more SEO, more traffic sources, and on and on. Based on what I've done and how Google and MSN placed me in the SERP's I expected things to be up again this month. I am not worried, I just wanted to get the topic out there including the poll.
     
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  6. CompressedAir

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    Yep same for me. I've been seeing a downwards trend as of late.
     
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  7. hurricane_sh

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    Mine dropped almost 40% due to decreased traffic. It's the first month my AdSense earning started dropping.
     
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  8. Briank

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    #8
    they usually go back up again.
     
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  9. Andi

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    #9
    I've had ups and downs, right now I'm staying about even in spite of having added many pages. So I guess that's a down.

    Andi
     
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  10. anthonycea

    anthonycea Banned

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    #10
    Payouts per click are dropping like a Led Zeppelin, that is the result of lower bidding on keywords by everyone across the board.

    Even good keywords are dropping fast as more publishers sign up everyday :eek:

    Supply and demand, more supply causes prices paid to publishers to drop.
     
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  11. Andi

    Andi Peon

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    My stats for May indicate that there is something much more bizarre happening than dropping word prices. Call it the Cinco de Mayo shuffle.

    Word underbidding may be happening too, but I don't see it in my numbers--it is something different.

    Andi
     
    Andi, May 22, 2005 IP
  12. anthonycea

    anthonycea Banned

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    #12
    Well clicks are down also, in addition to CPC Andi, as more sites add Adsense to their pages you have to expect both.

    There are thousands of new sites coming online every day :eek:
     
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  13. Andi

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    And so many are purely scraper sites--no discrimination, no editing, just an Adsense vehicle.

    This is one of the things that G is coping with. It ruins their search results, and they will run roughshod over websites (even Adsense) to protect their public search reputation.
     
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  14. anthonycea

    anthonycea Banned

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    #14
    If one is planning to make a living exclusively from Adsense on their pages they better have 100,000 page views a day with a hell of a lot of keywords only paying .03 - .07 cents each :cool:
     
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    #15
    I think traffic has a very important role in Adsense earnings. More people > more clicks > more money!
     
    pchere, May 22, 2005 IP
  16. anthonycea

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    Yeah, with a CTR of 1.5% you need a hell of a lot of page views to make $100.00 a day on ADSENSE from a page with some keywords paying only pennies. :eek:
     
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  17. tbarr60

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    #17
    I am not sure if I follow or agree. If Google has more people sign up as advertisers than they will either be bidding up to get the most exposure or be at the low end hoping for the ocassional click. Google will serve up ads that pay the best which is a combination of bid price and that ad's click through rate.

    I see ecpm staying the same but without the spikes.
     
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  18. Andi

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    #18
    Supply of publishers? I'm not clear on what "supply" refers to here.

    Total traffic on the Internet grows by a only a few percent per month and Google's Adsense coverage is beginning to bump into that growth limit. If the number of bogus sites running Adsense is growing faster than traffic it could boost G's earnings short-term but would be very bad for them long-term.

    While they may blunder occasionally I do trust them to protect their #1 cash cow...
     
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    Yeah, supply is traffic, not # of sites. While I see heaps of crappy adsense vehicle sites submitted to my directory, I rarely see them in the SERPs. YMMV...
     
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    #20

    Look at it as you would a Billboard on the highway, if a city only allows 1 giant Billboard within city limits, all the advertisers would bid a hell of a lot to put their ad on that billboard. But if the city would let everyone put one up advertisers would not be bidding much on that one giant Billboard any more because they would have thousands of Billboards to advertise on.

    That is what is happening with ADSENSE, the more publishers that join in, the supply increases and payouts go down to publishers.
     
    anthonycea, May 23, 2005 IP