Duplicate content from article submissions

How do you explain that article submissions are not counted as duplicate content.

Maybe some links with documentation will be very helpful.

I use article submission for more then 2 years, but I must show something concludent to my clients.

Hope you can help me,
Thank you very much.
Dan

 

When I use artlcle submission as method of marketing/SEO I never EVER place the same articles on my site. I exclusively write them to be distributed.

 

Articles that are the same are classed as dupliate content. If you have 2 things the same they are duplicates.

I think you misunderstand the duplicate content penalty. If there are several documents the same the search engines pick the most relevant for the search query and filter the others out of the results for that particular query.

There is no long term penalty (maybe if you are a wiki clone there will be).

 

Who says they're not counted as duplicate content? The fact is that they probably are, but the intent (most generally) is to develop back links to an external site so the "duplication" should not matter or give any negative effect to this end. If the article depot sites are being "discounted" for duplicate content, that will not effect the fact that it's generating traffic and back links to the site that the KW specific anchor text links are pointing to ...

As all online media is 'cyclic' it doesn't take long for an article / news story to get buried up by other stories.

If the articles, and hence their sites, are not being penalized for duplicate content, it's likely because they're given a "by" as news stories - as such, a news story will be reprinted several times over and there's no two ways about that ... if the AP wire does a story, literally thousands of other media entities will have it republished in a matter of minutes.

 

if you submit the same article to 2 article directories, you'll have links from '2 things the same'.
IS that duplicate content?
Are your links counted as coming from duplicate pages?
Are they gaining any penalties for any SE?
How do you prove that.

Thanks

 

You are saying that all the articles directories are having pages full of duplicate content? and in the same time you are saying that there is no penalty for duplicate articles, or for duplicate directories that are holding articles?
Am I wrong?? Please correct me.

Best regards
Dan

 

I don't know for sure that there is or is not a duplicate content penalt, but what I am saying, is that it will not affect the positives that it will do for your site with traffic, exposure, etc.

 

Duplicate content has nothing to do with the benefit the pages will give in terms of backlinks.

 

Google has been waging war against all kinds of search engine spam and especially against duplicate content in all forms. There are two main types of duplicate content that Google is concerned about.

The first is a website that simply lists the very same page hundreds or thousands of times with simply a few words changed. This is usually done to attain high ranking on a wide range of keywords. It is most often used to get ranked high on a whole bunch of keywords unrelated to your website but can sometimes be done by a site that is on topic but simply offering duplicate content.

The second type of duplicate content that Google is concerned about revolves around affiliate programs. It has been common practice for high traffic websites to establish an affiliate program. Affiliate programs themselves don’t worry Google. What it doesn’t like though, is for an affiliate program to take a template and then offer it to its base of affiliates to use. Some of the higher traffic websites end up with thousands upon thousands of duplicate websites all promoting the very same things and, according to Google, not offering any real value to the internet community. A website offering this type of cookie cutter website can easily find themselves de-listed by Google as happened to Template Monster a while back.

The third type of duplicate content is simply not included in the Google index. This is content that is found elsewhere on the internet at large. Google and the other major search engines are interested in gathering and cataloging as much quality, unique content as possible for human consumption. To this end, they look to minimize the amount of duplicate content they allow in their index. This is why creating a new website and simply filling it with third part content will rarely if ever result in high rankings in the Google index.

The solution? Don’t rely on duplicate content as your main method of driving traffic to your site.

 

E8MC, i'm sorry I don't understand your post.
I found it a little off topic.

I was asking about article submissions...

 

lol.. but E8MC does make sence with a lot of the filler sites. Many of these sites just reproduce search engine content, which naturally ranks highly in the keywords... this form of duplication is considered web spam... the pages are usually laced with adwords.

I'm starting a site, and plan on allowing syndication of articles... heck there seems to be a thousand places where they can be submitted. But, I'm guessing that if the sites have a pagerank, that they are not considered duplicate content.

What I've read before about dup content leads me to believe that having different description meta's/keyword meta's/title/ and so on do differentiate content.

The only real duplication at that point is the article, but that might only make up 50% or less of the behind the scenes coding.

 

>>Many of these sites just reproduce search engine content, which naturally ranks highly in the keywords... this form of duplication is considered web spam... the pages are usually laced with adwords.

Yeah, of those are cosiddered as spam.. what about the links from them? You'll get some penalties from this kind of links?

>>But, I'm guessing that if the sites have a pagerank, that they are not considered duplicate content.
There is no PR on an article page. A while ago Google removed all the PR from article pages, but there is a very intersting issue.
I am optimizing my sites only with links from article pages, and I have on most of my sites a Page Rank of 4. How do you explain a PR of 4 made out only from PR0 links. ???

>>What I've read before about dup content leads me to believe that having different description meta's/keyword meta's/title/ and so on do differentiate content.
I don't think that having 2 pages with the same content but different meta and titles tag will made out 2 diff pages..

 

Article pages and new content will automatically not have a google toolbar pagerank until the toolbar updates. Although, I haven't figured it out, occasionally, I'll check out older articles on the site to see if they have a pagerank for some indication.

As far as pagerank goes... I rely on it less as an indicator, unless you start seeing sites 5 or greater... Don't get me wrong, there is value there, but not sure the level of importance.

I don't know what/how much different content qualifies a page as different, I've seen sites with little or no diffence in content from pages still be indexed as a page.

If this was the case, than multiple article submission would have very little effect... but I think that google is looking for duplicate content within your own site.

If you have to show something conclusive to your clients, show your backlinks as a result of the article submissions & their search engine ranking.

 

Wow, thanks E8MC for the excellent explanation, especially "The second type of duplicate content that Google is concerned about revolves around affiliate programs. ... an affiliate program to take a template and then offer it to its base of affiliates to use."

I've been hearing the term "affiliate spam" and had no idea of how that worked. I didn't know that companies offered sites to their affiliates.

Re article submissions, I've been using articles for promotion to get sites established for five years. Although I post essentially the same article to an article directory that I post on one of my sites, I:

* Only post to one article directory site (I noticed that when I posted to many, my articles ended up being scraped heavily)

* Post the article on my site or blog first (so that it has a chance to get spidered there first)

* I only post one article a week (the aim is to build links slowly and steadily.

It seems to work for me.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Angela

 

yeah, i though that too, from as I see only one article has gained the proper PR and that is from http://searchwarp.com/, All the others are 0.
Could someone explain this?

Yes, PR is just an indicator, you can see easly the quality of the link and of course set a correct price for your customers.

I've sow in a tutorial from Brad Callen that Google's spider is only crawling the title, the first paragrapf and the last.
So if you are rewriting only these parts and of course, the resource box, then you should avoid the duplicate filter??

haha, this is obviuous our all main target

Thanks very much for your reply
Dan

 

Can you tell us on exactly what directory are you placing your articles?
ezine? isnare?

On what article

Wouldn't that be duplicate content? I've seen on more threads that some one calls this duplicate and some one incourages this method of gaining more pages of content.

Personally I use it too, I wantet to know your opinions.

You are saying that you are posing one article per week to a single article directory?
That means 1 link per week. Right?

Can you show us some results of this campaign for Google.

I found it a very very slow process of optimization.


Best regards
Dan

 

Hmmmm I am curious, but how come then that Google knows all the other stuff (i.e. words/whole sentences), for instance the ones located in the middle of some particular page ??


tayiper

 

I was talkin about the duplicate filter, it compares the title and first and last paragraphs to find out more duplicates..

ANyway, it's my mistake .. i don't even think this was true...

 

Vreeenom, I think that I was the one that brought that up... I don't know either if it is how or not that they classify content... but since article submission seems to be so often mentioned as a promotional too... I would do it anyway...

Honestly, I'd have to agree with you that I don't understand how it is not considered dup content... but again... I'm just a silly little web guy, not a multibillion dollar company with people who say what's good and bad...

 

if the article you submit to article directory is the same as your article on your site - it is the duplicate content.

nevermind, google doesn´t know, who is the real author of the article nor who published it first and, indeed, it is not interested in knowing it at all.

google doesn´t judge who was the first to do something, it just orders its SERPs based on what is the relevance of the respective page for the searcher.

The trick is to make google think your page with the article (no matter if written by you or not) is the most relevant for the searchers and that the others (again, no matter, if they are the article authors) are less relevant and potentially bannable (as they publish the duplicate content to your most relevant content).

Do you understand what I mean?