Dreamweaver vs Alternatives for PHP dev

Discussion in 'PHP' started by kkibak, Dec 10, 2006.

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    I just saw another thread asking what software is good for PHP development and it made me think--I've been using dreamweaver fairly exclusively and was wondering if people experienced with PHP think this is a bad idea? Does DW measure up to programs like Zend, etc, or would it be smart to switch?
     
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    tandac Active Member

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    I say use the software that makes you the most productive and comfortable.
     
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    Hehe, thanks, that's what I'm asking though :) Do other programs offer increased productivity when compared to DW and with respect to PHP?
     
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    tandac Active Member

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    Personally I do all my work in pico. :) I'm productive enough with that. I don't find PHP a difficult language to develop in. Maybe that's why I haven't looked for anything better.

    I would suggest trying a couple of programs out. I use Eclipse for Java development and I can say it definitely makes me a better programmer. Eclipse works great with PHP, one of the other developers in the office has been pretty happy using it.
     
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    Cool, thanks for the advice. Anyone have experience w/Zend?
     
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    Haven't used Zend but for extensive php development I like something that can debug. eclipse with php plugin works for debugging but is Java built-> very slow.

    I've recently started using WeBuilder can be good and loads fast (google fosi and click on the first link to try it out, cough cough) You need a local server to take full advantage. Works well with ASP too.
     
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    vi works well for me. However, Zend's auto code completion is really helpful and time saving when dealing with lots of long variable names and functions. I think it is worth spending money on Zend. They have a free 1 month trial for the latest version.
     
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    krakjoe Well-Known Member

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    Nothin really compares to Zend in terms of an IDE. nothin has a chance, however it's so expensive that I don't see how it could ever be a good investment, it's obviously designed for pro's and yet the only decent feature someone could mention was some autocomplete !!

    I don't use dreamweaver, i have it installed and if I gotta do something complicated with a table then I'll open it up to get the format right instead of messin about however <? ?> never touches the page.
     
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    I'm giving Zend Studio a try--I'll update once I've played with it for a few weeks since that's probably how long it will take to really understand what it offers. Thanks for the replies guys
     
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    I generally use vim, but for more complex coding I have used Zend. It's a great piece of software with a lot of features. It can point out a lot of minor errors (such as with syntax) without having to run through the PHP. You can do a lot of testing from within the program (though it becomes a bit tricky when you have to add packages to the PHP install). It also keeps track of variables, functions, etc. that you create and suggests them for you.

    It's been a long time since I used DW, so I'm not sure if this applies, but the way I see it now: DW is designed more for the frontend and Zend is more for the backend.
     
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