Dreamweaver OR Microsoft products

Discussion in 'HTML & Website Design' started by 5ky.com, Dec 14, 2011.

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    I am pretty new to this, hence the question....I am interested in starting to design websites. My obvious choice was getting to grips with Dreamweaver but the cost has put me off. I then discovered Microsft's range of free downloads, namely Microsft WebMatrix or perhaps Visual Studio 2010 Express. Has anyone used these products or can perhaps suggest the best tool for creating standalone websites??Thanks once again :)
     
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  2. gotlivechat

    gotlivechat Member

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    #2
    DW and the MS products are all good -- they certainly simplify the web development process.
    But if you really want to learn HTML, develop it in NOTEPAD or any other basic text editor. That way you understand how it all works in the background.
     
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    yho_o Well-Known Member

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    Dreamweaver is better than Microsoft expression, + some times Microsoft expression crashes while working on win7

    for me, Notepad++ is the best

    Thanks
     
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    Rukbat Well-Known Member

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    #4
    "Should I stick a needle or a pin into my eye?" That's what you're asking. Try "neither".

    1) Designing a website is artwork. Adobe Photoshop, Paint.net ... those are the sort of programs you use to design websites.

    2) If you mean develop websites (write code), use Notepad++, Eclipse, Aptana Studio, Netbeans ...

    The free programs are a lot better than the paid programs in this case.
     
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    BeeMWyou Well-Known Member

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    I have been using Microsoft Expression the past few weeks, and I have to say it is pretty frustrating, especially random crashes when nothing is saved.
     
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    bhupendradwi Member

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    Undoubtedly Microsoft products are better than Dreamweaver
     
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    Dreamweaver is better, but REALLY expensive. (You can try it free for 30 days, though.)

    You may as well learn HTML and use it in combination with an editor. Sure, you can hand code everything. But why? Editors will make some of the code messy. But if you've got HTML skills you can clean it up a bit.

    That said, don't forget about content management alternatives. Wordpress, Drupal, BlogEngine, etc.
     
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    datamonkey Active Member

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    I agree, get yourself over to http://www.w3schools.com/ and learn the code!

    Having said that DW is good. Not used Expression but looks alright..
     
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  9. Rukbat

    Rukbat Well-Known Member

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    That's like saying that having a broken back and being in a coma is better than being dead. It is, but not so much that you'd notice.
     
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    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    Dreamweaver was king , is king and it will be king . When you add some custom mods to it then you can do some pretty amazing things .
     
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  11. Rukbat

    Rukbat Well-Known Member

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    I can do the same things with Notepad. (Websites are just text, there's nothing magic or "undoable by mortal beings" about them.)
     
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  12. Kerosene

    Kerosene Alpha & Omega™ Staff

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    Everything Rukbat said.
    Learn to CODE BY HAND.
    Learn to CODE BY HAND.
    Learn to CODE BY HAND.
    It's the best thing you can do. That way you can use any application that has a code editor. Or even a pen and a piece of paper.
    There are heaps of good (free) code editing applications out there.
    My personal free favourite is PSPad.
     
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  14. ApocalypseXL

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    Really so notepad has the ability to test your website/app at multiple resolutions ? Or can you test it on the live server at the touch of one button ? Do you have code hinting to shorten the time it takes to code ? Or maybe code correction for that occasional fat finger ? No you don't and you loose time because of it and that's just the tip of the iceberg .

    @Kerosene - coding by hand is the only way , but having a good program to help you never hurts .
     
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    arpitpaltani Peon

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    Dreamweaver is a nice option.
     
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    I use Macromedia Dreamweaver 8 as my main code editor. FTP, code hinting, syntax highlighting. Macromedia's swan song, and one of my all time favourite applications.
    The only reason I recommend PSPad to people is because it's ONLY a text editor, so there's no WYSIWYG path to accidentally follow... and it's free.
    :)
     
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    Dreamwaver in my opinion.
     
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    I agree that http://www.w3schools.com is a great site to learn code. Dreamweaver and the entire Adobe CS are the best design tools you can have. They are pricey but the cost is reflected in the end product that they can allow you to produce. If you are going to design professionally then these are the tools that you will need.
     
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    dreamweaver for the win, use it, explore it and you will love it.
     
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    I like dreamweaver for web designing...
     
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