DP Member wants $10,000 from me.

OK. I have been doing some business with a DP member called VONRAT aka SEOLUV (Mike Rogers).

This business transaction has fallen sour and I have pulled away from it for ethical and moral reasons.

Basically, this is how it went. Mike contacted me and asked me if I wanted to better my position as far as a blog network went. I accepted. I did make things clear that all dealings must be "family friendly". He agreed.

Mike helped me put together a WP theme and some plugins to make it look clean. I did this and many DP members can see my 53 blogs network from requesting the list. My part of the deal was to run his network of blogs into my blogroll. I did this.

How it come to being a problem was he decided to post some "non family friendly" articles which filtered through my network. I informed him that I did not accept these types of articles and that he remove them from his feed blog so I could remove them from mine. The alternative was that I remove them manually myself and also remove the RSS feed from his feed blog along with the blogroll links to his network that have the objectionable content.

He declined so I had to do this manually. I have done this.

Now he claims I owe him $10,000 in fees (for time spent helping me) and will pursue to get this from me. I obviously declined.

Those who know me on DP know I am a devout Christian and have always requested business to be family friendly and I make my stand very clearly on this.

My take on this is that we have both spent equal amount of time in our business partnership and due to moral and ethical grounds the partnership has been broken and we both owe each other $zero.

I would like to know other DP members take on this in regards to legality because I am concerned that his aggressive nature will cause him to employ dirty tactics to bring me down. I only say this because he boasted about doing it to another DP member before.

Of course, I invite Mike to state his case in this thread if he feels I still owe him.

Col

 

You two should sit down and work this out.

Our opinions don't matter and if you go to court only the "blood-sucking" lawyers are going to win.

 

Sounds like you've got a big problem Col. It boils down to a simple case of your word against his, which isn't really sufficient evidence for him to pursue you through the courts. He did some template work and you repaid him with advertising, which sounds reasonable enough. When he started polluting your blog with smut, even when you asked him not to, you stopped his advertising - again reasonable enough. My guess is that he will not have the time, inclination or finances to carry out his hollow threat. What was the time frame in this case - how long were you advertising his sites before he got nasty? If he waited months before making this claim, it is benefitial to your case - it implies he wasn't interested in the money until your disagreement. I wish you luck.

 

He breached your terms, so you went against his wishes as well. To me you seem right on the $zero thing.

 

Is there anything in writing?

 

If there was no contract in writing he cannot even take you to court if the matter is above $1000 or he cannot stand it by in the court.......

Both of you should have had written contract

 

This is a clear cut case.
There was already a Gambling Post in the network before he put the RSS feed in his blogs.
http://paidpost.info/free-betting/

i agree

 

Unfortunately, there is no sitting down and talking about it. He is now demanding $10,000 payment and claims he is getting his lawyers involved. Calling me names in PM's is not helping the situation either.

The gambling post he is talking about I was unaware of until I went to the first blog to delete the objectionable article and then found it. Otherwise I would have objected to it earlier.

Thanks to all who have commented. I don't want to string this thread out and annoy members here. Was just looking for other's thoughts on the matter.

Col

 

If you have no contract stating you owe him $x then you owe him jack and he can scream and whine all he wants.

If he takes you to court, get a lawyer and then counter sue for legal fees and harassement.

If nothing is in writting then he could claim anyone owes him $x and he'd have just as much as case against you as anyone.

 

Where does he live? I can help you. Let me know what country he is in and i believe you are in US right? Tell me did you guys had written contract? Ask him to forward you his Attorney's detail so you can consult your attorney. Ask him that you need all his legal info including attorney's contact detail for you to even think about giving him $10,000.
Here are some facts...

If he does not live in Australia he have to hire an attorney in Australia for atleast 48 hours and that is minimum and it might take more then that. 48 hours will normally cost about $150X48 since he cannot take any action in small courts claim as this is a matter of more then $2500 according to him.
Form to open a local court case cost anywhere from $250 to $1500 depending on what kind of dispute it is and all other good stuff.
If you guys dont have any written contract then he have no right to claim any money more then $1000. You need to have written contract in order to claim more then that(ofcourse there are some other things involved and it solely depends on judge but its very rare for court to proceed without that). If both of you prepared a contract and agreed to it via email(electronically signed) that will act as written contract but if the deal was finalized after correspondence of like 20 emails then it cannot work as written contract. In other words it has to be a contract and it has to sound like a contract that is clear and simple.

There are very slim chances of winning for him if he open a legal dispute which i doubt he will considering all that above

 

Good point, If he does file a claim proceed with an attack first and then defense. If he does go ahead and file a claim and you get court notice hurry up and file a loss of opportunity time and money case make it more then what he sued you for then go in defending his claim. Thats a very good tactic and he will be trapped

 

WOW! Jaree. Have you been studying international law or something?? hehehehe....The deal was done through Skype chat. No email. I live in Australia and he tells me he resides in Phillipines. I have no idea what that means but thank you very much for your enlightenment.

Col

 

lol Philippines LMAO email him and ask him you are very scared and you have sent him $50,000 instead of $10,000 lol

Thats how things work in US but i know some about Australia too because i have been sued by someone in Australia There might be small difference in fees but normally its around that in lot of countries including US, Canada little higher in UK but Australia is kinda same if i am not mistaken but you can google all that. I am sure he cannot afford to go ahead with that

 

I sued a telemarketer once. That was exciting. The only hard part was dealing with all the BS and threats. I probably could have gotten more out of the company but the lawyer they hired was super expensive (I actually went to his office) so I figured if the lawyer just made the whole thing go away I'd accept a smaller amount. He probably milked thousands out of the company so I was happy. I didn't care who got the money as long as it came out of the telemarketing company's pockets.

If you do get paperwork, do research before calling a lawyer. I made my problem go away by filing a bunch of motions which may or may not have been valid. But each one cost the lawyer time and his client lots of money. I never had to hire a lawyer myself. I'd also mail them to the out of state client so more time was wasted passing paper back and forth between them.

 

Are you a registered company owner in the US or you did everything by your own ?

I'm not lawyer but I'm 100% sure that without written contract or any other sorts of signed documents stating who does what aka agreement he can not say anything to you. Even the best lawyer can't prove otherwise so don't be worried.

I've worked for one very large legal office and as IT Manager and from what they tolled me about similar case was the following "If he is so sure bring him to court .. he will pay the lawyers fee when he looses .. " so don't worry .. if he sais something you can skin him alive .. because you are a clear winner ..

Cheers mate,

Venetsian.

 

No. I have a registered company in Australia. Thanks for the advice. I don't want to countersue. I am not after that type of money. I'll just sit and see if any paperwork hits my mailbox and take it from there.

Col

 

Let me give you or actually everyone reading this thread a great advice. There is nothing wrong with counter suing. That is not money stealing or something... You have right to do that and ALWAYS go for it if you think you can get any money out of it or if the case is strong. Me or my business have been sued multiple times. People think that they can do anything or they are smart ass and everyone else is stupid. I have never let go a single person without suing them once or twice back. If you start something with me i dont just finish it like that i make money off of it and i dont see anything wrong with that but if you think your case isnt very strong or other person cannot afford it dont do it. Most of the time i was not after money but i was after giving them really good hassle and tassel and i succeeded in that. I lost couple of time but it did give a good lesson to plaintiffs

I have yet to be sued for something that i actually did wrong People here in US are quick to go to court for some reason

 

Yep .. I can confirm that also ..

Cheers mate,

Venetsian.