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DP Forums URLs, why are not they Search Engine Friendly?

Discussion in 'Support & Feedback' started by parorrey, Sep 30, 2006.

  1. parorrey

    parorrey Peon

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    #21
    That is exactly what i meant.

    firstly, with the sef link, you get a proper url for that page and that brings PR for that page. that is just oen reason for having such urls.

    secondly, for usability purposes, urls like forums.digitalpoint.com/suggestions/, forums.digitalpoint.com/google/, forums.digitalpoint.com/general-marketing/ are better than having urls like http://forums.digitalpoint.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3 and etc

    thirdly, what if someday Shaun has to change his forum software due to any reason or even have to switch from php to jsp, permanent sef links ending with '/' should be easily adoptable. ;)
    and IMHO DP will do even better if this approach is adopted. ;)
     
    parorrey, Oct 4, 2006 IP
  2. ViciousSummer

    ViciousSummer Ayn Rand for President! Staff

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    #22
    Digitalpoint.com has an alexa rating of 134 and is one of the top 150 websites in the entire world.

    Rather then giving suggestions on how to get "better rankings" for digitalpoint, perhaps people should be taking notes...:D
     
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  3. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #23
    Nope. There is always room for improvement. :)
     
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  4. ViciousSummer

    ViciousSummer Ayn Rand for President! Staff

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    #24
    Yes, and Digitalpoint is always making improvements. But, do you think changing the URL's is going to help? The fact that the URL's have, and always will be the same, is better then any SEO_hat_trick.php ;)
     
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  5. parorrey

    parorrey Peon

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    #25
    that is exactly what i'm proposing. lets make these forums URLs permanent by ending with /dir/ rather than forums.php?id=x :p
     
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  6. yfs1

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    #26
    This site needs doorway pages :rolleyes:
     
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    mad4 Peon

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    Angelus Well-Known Member

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    #29
    This thread actually highlights what is wrong with a lot of "SEO's". They ignore what actually works and insist on doing things based on myths which are reinforced in forum by people who know even less about SEO.

    There are a million Webmaster forums out there that have their site "SEO'd" to the last byte, yet they still can't rank worth anything.

    Is it better to emulate those sites or one that actually ranks for nearly every phrase that is mentioned on it.

    ie Look up "Hottest Guy" on Google ;)
     
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  10. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #30
    Very true, except... with vBSEO the old URL's are automatically 301'd to the new URLs.

    It should be SEO-hat-trick.php, not SEO_hat_trick.php. :D

    I agree that DP is kicking butt! But, I'd like to see it kick even more. :)

    I've tested keyword-keyword based filenames -- and the results were a 100% improvement in traffic.

    Of course, DP may not want that!

    There are other reasons why DP is succeeding. :)
     
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  11. hextraordinary

    hextraordinary Well-Known Member

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    #31
    It's not a myth, it's simply old, SE used to ignore everything after "?", but it's not true anymore, therefore SE friendly does not exist anymore unless you do random content generation.
     
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  12. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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  13. jward

    jward Active Member

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    #33
    Search engines do prefer static URLs:
    http://www.vbseo.com/f2/google-com-dynamic-vs-static-urls-2466/

    DigitalPoint is a great site. It would be amazing to see the traffic boost if it were vBSEO-enabled. How about top 50 sites in the world based on Alexa ranking? :)

    FYI Webmasterworld ran into problems when it deliberately blocked spiders with its robots.txt file. They were trying to stop excessive bandwidth usage from rogue spiders if I recall correctly. Of course, they should be running vBulletin + vBSEO to do even better. :)

    The v7N Network recently vBSEO-enabled, and they are doing very well:
    http://www.v7n.com/forums/ We expect more of the tech forums to go this direction in the future.

    BTW vBSEO is configurable. You can still develop link consensus and convert from dynamic to static URLs without using CRUs (Content Relevant URLs, i.e. URLs with keywords) if you have concerns or preferences related to usability.

    Hi Shawn,

    You could also do the following:

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/t150299/ or
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/t150299.html
    HTML:
     
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  14. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #34
    Or better yet, I could just leave it like it is. :)
     
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  15. jward

    jward Active Member

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    #35
    True, but why not have non-ugly URLs that are also an ingredient in the definitive SEO enhancement for vBulletin. ;)
     
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  16. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #36
    Who cares about forum URLs?! It's not like you ever have to type them in, remember, look at them or what. There are no ugly or beautiful URLs. A URL is just a URL.

    Any ranking benefit of a keyword stuffed URL will be outdone by a single good link. And it's not like DP Forums at this stage is in dire need of links.
     
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    Weirfire Language Translation Company

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    #37
    I think the bottom line is that until your own site is anywhere near as good as Digital Point you're in no position to say what would make it better. ;)
     
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    #38
    Even if you are at the top of your game, why settle for "good" when you can be "great"? I don't think there is any limit on the level of success that Shawn would like to achieve. :)

    A forum like DigitalPoint has a huge user base that will continue using DigitalPoint. They don't need a search engine to find it. :)

    However, the content here still drives search engine referrals - and if that can be improved in any way, then it can help to continue and heighten the success of DP.

    BTW vBSEO 3.0 includes linkbacks, which help to build highly relevant inbound and outbound links automatically. ;)
     
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  19. Indian

    Indian Peon

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    #39
    Changing URLs now after the site has achieved so many members and pages in search engines, would be a real blunder. There are 1000s of quality websites who are linking to threads here. Noone would like to screw such a huge setup. Things can be done.... like redirecting etc. but that time would be better spent on something more helpful to the forum.
     
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    Tyler Banfield Well-Known Member

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    #40
    That's exactly what I was thinking the whole time I was reading this thread! URLs should go unnoticed in forums, that's why they have navigation tools ;)
     
    Tyler Banfield, Oct 5, 2006 IP