Actually they've been around since 2000 I think maybe earlier cause I used them in 2001 and they were quite popular by then. I used to love dot.tk and cjb.net cause it meant I could develop my sites for fun, use free hosting and subdomain redirect service to look semi-professional (well, in my young mind anyway). I had some fun, learned some valuable skills doing it, then I moved on to paid domain and hosting, using the same skills I developed while playing around 6-8 years ago Sad though that they will sell the domain on from right under you, I know they're doing it to help the people of that island (or so they say anyway) but have some decency. Scot