Don't you think a bigger game is in plans behind Georgia's war?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ST12, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. LogicFlux

    LogicFlux Peon

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    #41
    We help many times more people than we hurt. All the good we do just doesn't get much attention or is just ignored.
     
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  2. atvking

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    #42
    yes delusion is a pretty thing...the whole world ignores US "aid":D...im kind of an expert on your "aid" my country got it by the bucketload...you could call it legalized bribe...i can give you many many examples where the "US aid" guy and the local politician get to decide what "aid" goes to what bank account LOL...

    hell just in my region "US aid" was supposed to build a mountain pass that was supposed to be 80 kilometers long (strange job for US aid eh?) and this was like 4 years ago they got the money because a local company was involved in building it but only like 4-5km were actually constructed!!! its 20 minutes from my fathers house!...now heres the interesting bit :D the director of the local construction company (also a politician) suddenly got this spanking new Audi A8L its the long version for presidents with all the extras!!!...we asked him about the road (it would save us all tons of time) and he said openly that it was never going to be built in the first place and that the first few kilometers were only for show...

    i know several western "aid" agencies and most of them are a pure waste of your tax money and they almost never help where its needed they just worry about spending all their "budget" so that they can get a new one next year and keep their fancy jeeps and salaries...some "aid" is actually distributed but i dont believe its anybodys first priority if you get what i mean LOL...

    i dont know anything about the "Aid" program for HIV in africa but i can bet you ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY that the medication/aid coming is from one of bushes buddies that has a big pharma company and will sell the medication at outrageous US prices...when i say "sell" i dont mean that any african can actually afford it i mean sell to the tax payers that will pick up the bill for this scam...i will leave this board and put "the USA rules" in my signature if this is not the case...it happened here in my country this is why im so sure it was a scandal because local medication is 20x cheaper...

    the only thing you will get free from the USA is a bomb or a bullet...the USA is an empire its not a goodwill organisation...if in doubt just count the bombs...

    i wont even go in to discussing the infamous "US embargos" that destroy millions and millions of livelyhoods because some US politician claims to be the representative of a nation,most of whom, that cant even find the embargo-ed country on the map...

    the truth is: where there is smoke there is fire...where there is a lot of smoke there is a lot of fire...
     
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  3. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #43
    Control over it?? If we wanted to control Georgia, we would be in Georgian capital by now. Do you really think its so hard to spot these pipelines and bomb them from the air with russian air forces? :cool:

    I wonder why the pipeline are stil allive......:D

    Regarding cutting oil/gas to neighbours, when you dont pay for the gas and have debts in bln $ - you will surely get cut.

    Here you go:

    http://vz.ru/news/2008/8/11/195350.html

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080809/wl_uk_afp/georgiasossetiarussiaunrestoilbp

    British Petroleum denies the fact that Russian jets bombed the pipelines. Welcome to the world of lies by Mr. Saakashvili ;)
     
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  4. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #44
    I hope russia will get more weak soon. Russia has to understand to respect independent countries . Russia is attacking innocent ppls . Russia stop the war !!!
     
    ziya, Aug 11, 2008 IP
  5. N_F_S

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    #45
    dream on and good luck.
     
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  6. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #46
    It is part of a big game to weak russia, and you know man it is happening , russia economy has lost many from this war, bloody Russia stop attacking innocnet ppls, stop attacking countries, there will be never goddamned USSR again.
     
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  7. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #47
    we will not attack if you dont attack us. Economy? Its the best since 1990. And we have enough reserves for this just like US spending bln $ on wars.
     
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  8. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #48
    Your economy is fine becouse of TATAR oil. And TATARS are not russions. It is not land of russia , so it means we no one attacked you ( russia). So stop using others reserves, stop attacking other countries !!!!
     
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  9. N_F_S

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    #49
    Are you really mad? Tatarstan has been a part of Russia for ages. Go and educate yourself. What about Siberia with its huge nature resources, that one is not Russian as well? You are very funny. You talk some stupid things, mate.
     
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  10. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #50
    Are TATARS russians ????? the big ,fat NO you know everything well, but playing games.. So those reserves are not russians.

    you are used (russians) to call our reserves ,resereves of Kazakhistan, Uzbakhistan, Turkmenistan , Georgia... , in period of goddamned USSR

    you know why this war happend , becouse you are used to call everyting ours, our reservices, our region etc..
     
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  11. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #51
    no comments :D You can only laugh at what you just said.

    read this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia

    Lets split Russia in 160 countries! :D

    If you were clever youd know that Russia is the only friend of muslim countries (I see that you have a muslim link in your sig) who can help them against american hatredness. Geo politics is an interesting thing.
     
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  12. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #52
    lets add all ex USSR countries and ethnics back to russia :D

    My finall comment is that russia had to understand that georgia, asetia, abkhasiya , uzbakistan, kazakhistan and others dont belong to russia. russia doesnt have right to kill inncoent ppls, it is russian agression, but the finall reason of this game is to weak russia agression

    so good luck with agression !!

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    If you were clever youd know that Russia is the only friend of muslim countries (I see that you have a muslim link in your sig) who can help them against american hatredness. Geo politics is an interesting thing.
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    that made me laugh .. I saw how you helped in Chechenistan
     
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  13. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #53
    Read up the history, Abkhaziya and South Ossetia have never been a part of Georgia since 1990.

    You lost with your question about Tatarstan :)
     
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  14. N_F_S

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    #54
    Chechnya is a part of Russia since the 18th century when we all fought against Russian Empire.

    Now laugh and check where Iran/Iraq/Syria/ and all other fighting muslim countries get their weapons ;)
     
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  15. Briant

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    #55
    I just stopped by to say that it looks like Saakashvii's been hanging around the neocons to long and the dumb has worn off on him. Real bonehead move. Did he and his neocon allies really think Russia would do nothing? And now he expects his neocon friends to help him :confused: Can he be that naïve? Can they be that crazy? Nevermind that last part.
     
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  16. N_F_S

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    #56
    Apparently, at last he signed the non-force agreement after realizing that NATO/US wont send its troops to him.

    http://en.rian.ru/world/20080811/115955128.html


    Here is an interesting video from a russian dude in states: :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhhyZjNApBg
     
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  17. LogicFlux

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    #57
    Corruption at local levels is a problem with giving aid but how is it our fault? There is nothing we could ever do to satisfy people like you. You want to take no responsibility for things your people have done and everything that happens in the world you blame on the US. Why don't you grow up, take some responsibility for yourself and the people around you and stop blaming everything on the U.S. boogeyman.
     
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  18. Lexiseek

    Lexiseek Banned

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    #58
    He's a professional victim. And a whiner, to boot.
     
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  19. ST12

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    #59
    The voice of Turkey.

    Ha, ha, ha, this guy hates Russia by default. No reason for Russians to do anything. It is always their fault. Even if a Russian is in the middle of a desert with his jeep and somebody hits his jeep in the Russian's, it's the Russian fault. Why? Because if he was not in the middle of the desert the second guy wouldn't have hit his jeep in the russian's jeep.
    This is the logic of most Anti-Russians.
    Only pathetic and completely dishonest people can think like that.


    In the name of Peace and Justice Russia has the obligation to confront the war criminals and bring them to court.
     
    ST12, Aug 11, 2008 IP