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Don't Try to PRETEND to be from USA! Why do outsourcers LIE LIKE THIS (true story)

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by BusinessCoach, Apr 22, 2009.

  1. chum112

    chum112 Guest

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    #21
    This guys been doing work for me for months. He does his work. Reliable. Sure he lied about being from the US, but im willing to stick with him. Not a bad bloke.
    SEMrush
     
    chum112, Apr 23, 2009 IP
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #22
    I am not sure about those trying to pretend to be from the USA. With the current economic crisis that is substantially USA's fault, I guess it won't be much longer when outsourcers will want to pretend to be from some other country instead. Also if you are traveling, try not to tell others you are from USA for safety sake.
     
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    elitesystem Well-Known Member

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    #23
    haha!! LMAO! well said.. well i dont support people lying about their place of residence. Its just that most of the foreigners get rejected from getting hired since they are not from the States (some say they dont speak good english, some think its scam, some think they are not reliable etc) I dont think people should be judged by their race or place of birth; if they have what it takes, if they are talented then they are good to go.

    And as wisdom said, economic situation sucks in States now ..

    :p:D now this is true but really hilarious!
     
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    Francesc Active Member

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    #25
    Funny story. I think the only ones that use ¿? are people who have a spanish keyboard (like myself).

    I hate this kind of guys, tell the f*cking truth...
     
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    BusinessCoach Well-Known Member

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    #26
    that's funny...how do you know who it is?

    did i miss changing one of his IM names?
     
    BusinessCoach, Apr 23, 2009 IP
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    #27
    A guy who calls himself the same name has been running my forum for about 3 months. Hes doing a very good job. So im happy.
     
    chum112, Apr 23, 2009 IP
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    #28
    well chum, i have nothing against him; we dont even question his credibility or whatsoever. But, we are talking abt him being dishonest to some extent. I know S#^$ happens but anyways hope he clears up things before it gets messy.. good luck and cheers!
     
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    #29

    BY WHAT SAME NAME??? I never said his name...but maybe i should???
     
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    #30
    Might have mixed things up. My guy oscar greenwood is good.
     
    chum112, Apr 24, 2009 IP
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    #31
    lol its strange that people just dont say thier proper locations.. Well maybe coz some americans think that giving work to americans they will get quality stuff and others it would be diffrent
     
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    #32
    Australians, Americans and canadians charge a lot.
     
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    #33

    the LIAR i posted about is probably not oscar greenwood although he did mention Oscar as a name, I think its fake.

    Unless your oscar lives in el paso, and has a gun in case of a TIGER attack. And used to live in California but went to a school called "Alumni" with no mascot and has a keyboard that types double ? marks (one upside down)...

    its not the same guy.
     
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    #34
    don't forget to add people from the UK (they charge the MOST)

    but it's because we have higher costs of living. and global economy makes things different


    2£ (UK) = $1 (US) = 40INR (India)


    (above are approximates that fluctuate)

    DEGREED engineers in an IT position in india only make about 12-15k USD...which would be considered poverty in the USA. We have a mandated MINIMUM wage of aroiund $7 USD an hour, that;s about $14,500....thats what we pay to people with NO EDUCATION, SKILLS or EXPERIENCE!
     
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    #35
    OK so here is the LATEST attempt!

    I don't even care, I am not even gonna try to replace the names.

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:24 PM] spnoob1016: hello, I talked to you yesterday about vbulletin installations. Do you still require help?[Friday, April 24, 2009 15:24 PM] I GROW Your Biz: yes
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:24 PM] spnoob1016: Alright, I can start now if you like.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:24 PM] I GROW Your Biz: please reply to the thread on DP
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:25 PM] spnoob1016: Can you send me the link again, I might forgot to bookmark it ;x

    I MIGHT FORGOT??? Sounds non-american to me!

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:25 PM] I GROW Your Biz: ok
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:25 PM] I GROW Your Biz: where are you from?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:25 PM] spnoob1016: U.S

    HMMMMM "." only after U? curious.

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:25 PM] spnoob1016: east coast o.o


    AAAAA trying to sound "american" an "intelligent liar"

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:25 PM] I GROW Your Biz: where?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:25 PM] spnoob1016: new york.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:25 PM] I GROW Your Biz: bk?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:25 PM] I GROW Your Biz: bx
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:25 PM] I GROW Your Biz: ?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:26 PM] spnoob1016: manhattan

    EASY (but fatal) CHOICE!

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:26 PM] I GROW Your Biz: cool, must be expensive living there
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:26 PM] I GROW Your Biz: how far are you from riley's cafe?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:26 PM] spnoob1016: Never heard of it before.

    Ignored my expensive comment...and plays off rileys (there is no rileys cafe selling pizza)

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:26 PM] I GROW Your Biz: rileys? in manhattan?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:26 PM] I GROW Your Biz: pizza and subs?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:26 PM] I GROW Your Biz: right on the strip
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:27 PM] spnoob1016: Nope oO

    HE thinks he is outsmarting me...i am JUST BEGINING TO SET THE TRAP

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:27 PM] I GROW Your Biz: hmmm
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:27 PM] I GROW Your Biz: how long you live there?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:27 PM] spnoob1016: I don't even know where it is.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:28 PM] I GROW Your Biz: ok do you know where grimaldis is?

    REAL PIZZA JOINT!

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:28 PM] spnoob1016: nope =/
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:28 PM] spnoob1016: Does it matter?

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:28 PM] I GROW Your Biz: u LIVE in manhattan right?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:28 PM] I GROW Your Biz: of course man
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:28 PM] I GROW Your Biz: you gotta know the good food bro!
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:28 PM] I GROW Your Biz: where do you get pizza?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:29 PM] spnoob1016: Don't know the name o.o
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:29 PM] spnoob1016: how does this relate to me helping you install modifications? oO

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:29 PM] I GROW Your Biz: i like to know the people i work with
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:29 PM] I GROW Your Biz: how old are you?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:29 PM] spnoob1016: I see.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:29 PM] spnoob1016: 20

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:30 PM] I GROW Your Biz: what part of manhattan
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:30 PM] spnoob1016: lower east.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:31 PM] spnoob1016: Well, I found the thread, what should i post?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:31 PM] I GROW Your Biz: that your interested
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:31 PM] spnoob1016: Done.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:33 PM] spnoob1016: I just joined DP a few days ago.

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:33 PM] I GROW Your Biz: ok
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:33 PM] I GROW Your Biz: so where are you near?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:33 PM] I GROW Your Biz: stanton? houston?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:33 PM] I GROW Your Biz: or maybe closer to grand?

    REAL STREETS


    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:33 PM] spnoob1016: I live in "chinatown"

    wait a minute...if he was in china town he would have said tha FIRST...Lower east ENDS at CHINA TOWN..china town is not "technically" in the LoEast

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:34 PM] I GROW Your Biz: lol
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:34 PM] I GROW Your Biz: near what street?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:34 PM] spnoob1016: Around canal.

    Taking too long to respond , and too common answers....he is GOOGLING!

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:34 PM] I GROW Your Biz: so you know where ronalds pizza is right?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:34 PM] spnoob1016: I don't really note down the names of places
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:35 PM] spnoob1016: I just go there oO
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:35 PM] spnoob1016: If its good, i remmeber the location
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:35 PM] spnoob1016: remember*


    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:35 PM] I GROW Your Biz: you don't know the name of the place you eat pizza?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:35 PM] I GROW Your Biz: u put kraut on your dogs?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:35 PM] I GROW Your Biz: ??
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:35 PM] spnoob1016: no.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:35 PM] I GROW Your Biz: no to which?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:36 PM] spnoob1016: both. oO
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:36 PM] I GROW Your Biz: ok well if your in chinatown you know where the Y is right?

    HOW STRANGE THIS MUST SOUND TO SOMEONE NOT FROM THE STATES...simply calling something by a letter...is it a restaurant? a street? what is the "y"....lol...if your from the states you already know what I'm talking about! HE DOES NOT!

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:36 PM] spnoob1016: Y?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:36 PM] I GROW Your Biz: ya, the "Y"
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:37 PM] I GROW Your Biz: what country are you from?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:37 PM] I GROW Your Biz: did u just move to NY?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:37 PM] spnoob1016: nope
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:37 PM] I GROW Your Biz: ?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:37 PM] I GROW Your Biz: ok so you know where the Y is right?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:37 PM] spnoob1016: No, I'm afraid not.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:37 PM] spnoob1016: x_x

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:37 PM] I GROW Your Biz: ymca?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:38 PM] I GROW Your Biz: how can you miss the y
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:38 PM] spnoob1016: oh.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:38 PM] spnoob1016: yea


    really, or you still lying?

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:38 PM] I GROW Your Biz: ok you know where that is right?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:38 PM] spnoob1016: Barely, but yes
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:38 PM] I GROW Your Biz: so they are on 43rd street right

    43rd is not low east side


    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:38 PM] I GROW Your Biz: big building
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:39 PM] spnoob1016: don't know.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:39 PM] I GROW Your Biz: sorry 63rd i meant

    neither is 63 :p

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:39 PM] I GROW Your Biz: well u know which bldg i mean right
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:39 PM] spnoob1016: I know how to get there, but i dont know the street names and whatnot
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:39 PM] I GROW Your Biz: hmmmm
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:40 PM] I GROW Your Biz: ok how would you get there then?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:40 PM] spnoob1016: I'd walk?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:40 PM] I GROW Your Biz: how would you know whre to turn if you don't know street names
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:40 PM] I GROW Your Biz: or names of restaurants?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:41 PM] spnoob1016: If you go there frequently you'll know the path.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:41 PM] I GROW Your Biz: so you go to the y often?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:41 PM] spnoob1016: not now.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:41 PM] I GROW Your Biz: you used to?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:41 PM] spnoob1016: I go during the summer
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:41 PM] I GROW Your Biz: do you ride the horses?

    this should have been a red flag TO HIM!!! he should have mentioned something about whether or not there is horesback riding at the "Y" in chinatown.


    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:42 PM] spnoob1016: no
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:42 PM] spnoob1016: oO

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:42 PM] I GROW Your Biz: why does it take you so long to answer me when i ask certain questions?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:42 PM] spnoob1016: I go there for swimming
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:42 PM] I GROW Your Biz: do you stay the night?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:42 PM] spnoob1016: no idea what that means.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:42 PM] spnoob1016: stay the night?


    Another COMMON american phrase, that in and of itself is understood, whats strange is why would you stay the night at the Y if you just went to go swimming????

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:42 PM] I GROW Your Biz: u don't know what that means?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:42 PM] spnoob1016: No.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:42 PM] I GROW Your Biz: rofl
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:43 PM] I GROW Your Biz: i guess you wouldnt
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:43 PM] I GROW Your Biz: since you never heard of the "y" yet you go there and swim
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:43 PM] I GROW Your Biz: but you don't know the street its on???
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:43 PM] spnoob1016: Afraid not.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:43 PM] I GROW Your Biz: and you don't know any of the names of the restaurants you eat at
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:43 PM] I GROW Your Biz: ...well one of two things friend
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:44 PM] I GROW Your Biz: either you are a person in need of assistance just to live life...or you are lying about where you live
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:44 PM] I GROW Your Biz: either way, i can't trust you with my forum..thanks anyway
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:44 PM] spnoob1016: Ah well.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:44 PM] I GROW Your Biz: there is one way to redeem yourself
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:44 PM] I GROW Your Biz: whats your name?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:45 PM] spnoob1016: Andy.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:45 PM] I GROW Your Biz: last name?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:45 PM] spnoob1016: I'll keep that secret.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:45 PM] I GROW Your Biz: then you don't want to work for me do you
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:45 PM] spnoob1016: I'll decline, don't know why you want to ask all these questions.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:45 PM] I GROW Your Biz: because you are a stranger
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:46 PM] I GROW Your Biz: surely at 20, you understand that
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:46 PM] I GROW Your Biz: IF in fact you live in NY you understand even more
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:46 PM] spnoob1016: Well of course.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:46 PM] I GROW Your Biz: then what job do you go to and not get interviewed
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:46 PM] I GROW Your Biz: what job do you not have to give your full name?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:46 PM] spnoob1016: Well you do have a point x_X
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:47 PM] I GROW Your Biz: how can i expect you to do a good job when you don't even know the names of the streets or restaurants in your own town...should i expect you to be able to handle complex code without messing it up?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:47 PM] I GROW Your Biz: so last time "andy"
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:47 PM] I GROW Your Biz: whats your last name?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:47 PM] spnoob1016: "Lee"

    BWAHAHAHAHA really? that is NOT an american last name, is that the best you could come up with? "andy lee" hahahaha

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:47 PM] I GROW Your Biz: ok andy lee
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:47 PM] I GROW Your Biz: call this number 727-417-6838
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:48 PM] I GROW Your Biz: i will expect it from a 212 area code
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:48 PM] spnoob1016: Yea... Don't know what that number is.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:48 PM] I GROW Your Biz: don't worry, caller id will do the work for you
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:48 PM] I GROW Your Biz: just call me
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:49 PM] I GROW Your Biz: are you dialing?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:49 PM] spnoob1016: 727... somewhere in florida i guess

    Your google prowess is amazing "andy"

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:49 PM] I GROW Your Biz: tampa bay to be exact
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:49 PM] spnoob1016: I only have local service

    HOW CONVENIENT>>>NO WORRIES>>I STILL WILL PROVE YOU TO BE A LIAR!

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:49 PM] I GROW Your Biz: ok then call this number 1-800-691-2946
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:49 PM] I GROW Your Biz: its toll free
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:49 PM] I GROW Your Biz: u can even call it from a payphone without putting in money
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:49 PM] I GROW Your Biz: are you calling now andy?
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:50 PM] spnoob1016: Mr Pressman

    1-800-691-2946
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:50 PM] spnoob1016: uh huh...

    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:50 PM] I GROW Your Biz: all your doing is proving this whole time you have been on google
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:50 PM] spnoob1016: Yea I'll decline. I'm done with this. Cya.
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:50 PM] I GROW Your Biz: 1-800-691-2WIN
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:50 PM] I GROW Your Biz: look that one up
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:50 PM] I GROW Your Biz: you should be done...cuz your caught in your lie
    [Friday, April 24, 2009 15:50 PM] I GROW Your Biz: you know your area code and "accent" will give you away



    Of course he can't call...he would call from an area not 212, and of course it's doubful he has an american accent much less a NY one.


    But WHY LIE? You guys make yourselves look real DUMB, and you DON"T GET THE WORK!
     
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    #36
    Dude, I don't care what ANYBODY says...this is one of the most hilarious threads I've read here in a LONG time!

    Excellent work! I feel the exact same way - I have no problem hiring overseas people to do work...but for God's sake just TELL ME THE TRUTH!

    This is gold...it really is. *continues laughing
     
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    #37
    Like I told the last guy... who goes to a job and does not get "interviewed"?

    In there mind it always seems like I am chit-chatting or small talking with them when they contact me, but I am really INTERVIEWING THEM to see what kind of person they are

    I have to give a stranger access to my servers, code etc, and sometimes they ask for payment up front (I rarely do that)

    so yes, i want to know about them, they should be happy to tell me all about themselves.

    But then something doesn't add up, and then I go from interviewing to "testing"...and if they fail...I can't work withthem

    How can I work with a liar...if you will lie about a little thing like where you live, won't you lie to me about work you did or did not do?

    EVERYONE KNOWS majority of outsources don't want to WORK, they want just enough to get by and have a tendancy to "disappear". So why would i hire a liar

    I would not...and I suggest you do not either

    A word to freelancers...if you are from the bottom of the sea...say that. the truth gets you a lot farther than any lie will.
     
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    #38
    I can't take it anymore, please stop posting......... though it was interesting read and my eyes are paining lol lol :D Lots of text to read!!

    Conclusion: Do your homework before pretending to be someone you are not:D Just kidding!!
    It sucks that he tried his best but all in vain. It proves that he was a scammer.
     
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    #39

    rofl

    TRUE!

    still, i am gonna ask questions only americans know, and use terms NOT found in wikipedia...lol
     
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    #40
    What is the point of this thread....I mean, why waste time posting this observation when there is money to be made !
     
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