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Don't rely on Google

Discussion in 'Google' started by Nokia999, Oct 20, 2005.

  1. #1
    Yes i hate Google
    or you can say i don't rely on Google searches because its algorithm is not so much competent as of MSN.
    As Google has some history so ppl rely on it blindly.
    let me explain ...
    if you will search "odp.net" on Google it will return shamelessly.
    You may not know what is ODP.Net.
    it is actually Oracle Data Provider for .Net.
    But i want to concentrate you on Google Search Algo or Results.
    It will return no result.
    Same is the case with Abu-Garib Jail pictures.
    Why Google has such feudal repute?
    Why you ppl rely on Google?
    I rate Msn as Best of the Best :) .
    SEMrush
     
    Nokia999, Oct 20, 2005 IP
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  2. Dirkjan

    Dirkjan The Dutch SEO Guy

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    Google results may suck at some queries. But Google has traffic :) a top10 with Google brings 3000% more visitors than the same top1 at MSN. At least in the Netherlands.
     
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    monosodium Well-Known Member

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    down yonder in amerikkah they spell it differently... try abu ghraib and you'll get plenty of results. i actually agree that msn are better for text search, but google are by far the best when you're searching for images.
     
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  4. Old Welsh Guy

    Old Welsh Guy Notable Member

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    Slag Google off as much as you like, it STILl brings in 2-3 times the traffic of any other search engine. Odd don't you think considering it has the same market share as Yahoo!
     
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    fryman Kiss my rep

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    If you rank in #10 at Google you will get much more traffic than if you are ranked at #1 at MSN.

    Google is the king... and I love it :D

    hmmm... 4999 posts... I wonder where will I use up my 5,000 one...
     
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  6. monosodium

    monosodium Well-Known Member

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    you mean same market share in terms of traffic? actually, i heard [undocumented anecdotal hearsay] that even though Y! and G get roughly the same amount of traffic, the bulk of internet traffic to yahoo! is for their portal content (such as mail etc.) so yahoo gets only about 10 percent as many search queries as google. [/hearsay]

    sorry but i honestly can't remember where i saw that tit bit, i mean tid bit.

    it makes sense though. [subjective guess] quite a few people who use yahoo for mail switch to google for search. [/guess]
     
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  7. monosodium

    monosodium Well-Known Member

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    perhaps... but msn users tend to be less internet savvy, older, and far easier to sell stuff to than G users. :D
     
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  8. keral82

    keral82 Banned

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    Google is too smart to make silly mistakes that people like you can sing on.

    Why don't you search for good things on google it will help you both educationally and financially. Stop looking for holes in google and use whatever it has to offer. Otherwise you will just stay here and all the others will go with the flow. I only recieve 8 visitors from google since my site was launched. But i kept trying different tricks (SEO tricks) and at last I have some descent PR and some good traffic with google. I know that when google will deliver there is no stopping for it.
     
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  9. monosodium

    monosodium Well-Known Member

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    unless of course you wake up one morning and your site is nowhere to be found in the SERPs.

    Y! and msn may deliver less traffic, but they're far less capricious.
     
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  10. Such Great Heights

    Such Great Heights Peon

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    Don't rely on Google?

    Don't rely on any one search engine, or one incoming web link, or one affiliate program, or one product, or one text advertiser.

    Don't rely on one source of revenue.

    I would agree with monosodium when he says MSN users seem to be easier to sell to. :)
    This is our first month we've gotten more traffic from MSN than Y! and it shows in our commissions. Google has been third for a few months now. :eek:
     
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  11. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    With about the same rankings at Msn and Google

    Msn sends me more traffic then Google since 2months.
     
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  12. monosodium

    monosodium Well-Known Member

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    that's good solid advice. sometimes one forgets that. it's tempting to focus on google because the rewards can (supposedly) be huge if you fight your way to the top. and SEO is more fun than "real" sales work. you tinker with your site and hope for a a massive stream of traffic which will let you sit back and relax, picking and choosing your customers... of course, this get-rich-quick mentality is what people have when they buy lottery tickets. if there is one thing i regret it is spending too much time trading links and obsessing with SEO just to get higher rankings at Google.
     
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    keral82 Banned

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    If google is not as great as this nokia guy tell us. Then why is everyone mad about google. Why on digital point over here there are more viewers in google threads then yahoo or msn SE's threads.
     
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    calmriver Peon

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    hi

    is there any way i could find the msn rank for my site ?
     
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  15. monosodium

    monosodium Well-Known Member

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    no tool that i know of, but you could increase the displayed results to the maximum of 50 per page by clicking on "settings" to help you sift through it all
     
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    baseballcube Peon

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    You should work on backlinks to be able to grab traffic from other sites as opposed to focusing on Google. There is no chance that 250 different sites decide to drop your site whereas Google can impact your traffic in 1 second.

    That is my new plan at least becuase I'm tired of counting on Google to get me traffic when I can make one link exchange and get 15 new people a day.
     
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  17. aeiouy

    aeiouy Peon

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    Should be a picture :)
     
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    nddb Peon

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    Hehe, if you are #29 at google you'll get 10x as much traffic as a #1 at msn. And far more than a #1 at yahoo. It's crazy! =) Also, because google actually indexes pages. I'm tempted to block msn and yahoo crawler, simply because they crawl all day and never index. 977k on google, ~1200 on both msn and yahoo... that sucks.
     
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    themetalpeddler Peon

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    Many of us don't deliberately rely on Google - that's just where most of our customers come from. I'm #1 in MSN for many more KWs that in Google, but get much less traffic from them.
    Also, when customers place an order with us, we have a drop down box asking where they found us - I've seen one order in about 3 months from MSN, the rest of from Google and a small % from Yahoo.

    Since my Google SERPs dropped from Page 1 into the basement somewhere, traffic is non-existant.
    I didn't SEO my site for Google alone, I just built it. All the #1 slots in the world on MSN and Yahoo just don't do it for us, I'm afraid
     
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  20. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    Google works better if you know how to properly spell what you're looking for.
     
    Crazy_Rob, Oct 20, 2005 IP
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