dont have a static ip address!!!

Discussion in 'Guidelines / Compliance' started by sam1, Dec 4, 2005.

  1. #1
    I dont have a static ip address.. i use dial up connection for internet.. can
    it create any problem in releasing my income or something else..
     
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  2. Monolith

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    lmao








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  3. sam1

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    what is imao
     
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  4. fsmedia

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    lamo = laughing my butt of (filtered terms).

    What you're saying has nothing to do with being on dial-up though, what on earth are you talking about?
     
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  5. sam1

    sam1 Active Member

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    actually while feeding the tax information google note down your ip address.
    since i dont have a static ip address.. so can it create problem in someway...this is
    what i wanted to ask
     
    sam1, Dec 4, 2005 IP
  6. ASFx

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    Your IP address doesn't effect anything.
     
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  7. sam1

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    but in that case even if i click on my own ads, ( i wont do so, just asking)
    how will google come to know about this( as my ip address is not static)
     
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  8. fsmedia

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    Google systems would probably analyze the domain you are logging in from and the general area, then analyze where the clicks are being generated from and see if they match up. Likely they may not catch it, but it's not worth the risk of violating their TOS.
     
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  9. Crusader

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    Using dail-up should not cause any problems at all. When you log into your Adsense account, a cookie is stored on your computer, and that is one of the ways Google knows that you are the owner of the website. Now if you go about clicking on your site's ads or some such neferious behavior, they will know it.

    Where this does come into play is if you access your Adsense account from a public PC with a static address. If everything isn't cleared from that PC after you checked your account, and someone else using the same PC later clicks on your ads you might be in trouble.

    It's best to be safe and avoid this. The fact of the matter is that nobody is 100% sure exactly how Google keeps track of you. Most likely it's a combination of different methods. The risk when using public PC's is high, because you never know if you might have missed removing something after you have checked your account.
     
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    fsmedia Prominent Member

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    Crusader: some good insight, but I wouldn't so far as to say that nobody knows how the tracking works. To a certain extent that is true, most people don't understand or know how exactly the tracking system works. I know quite a few people that know how it runs and operates.
     
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  11. Crusader

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    I should have phrased it better, but the emphasis is on "exactly how". The majority of people don't and should not know how it works exactly. Just imagine the increase in abuse if that knowledge would become common knowledge.
     
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  12. cornelius

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    even if you are on diall up, ur ip is practicaly the same

    ie most of time ur ip is 155.155.yyy.xxx (theoretical ip) where xxx changes alot and yyy every so often (this depend on your isp as well and how many ip adresses where allocated, whatever your ip the first router at the isp in your area will have the same address)

    also i dont think google just compare ips like that, they probably use statistical bell curves and look for outliers, then they check the outliers because some institutioins could be behind a NAT so the ip could appear to be the same
     
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  13. bizz

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    Cookies matter, not IPs

    For example if you click on your own ads they'll found out by cookies and unusual CTR and not by IP address, if they would rely on IPs it would be end of AdSense.

    Another example is: Try searching google for cars, search more for cars, then go to a site with something that is not about cars but has little content and has adsense ads. You would see ads for cars.

    I'm using dial up and satellite dsl proxy and my ip changes almost every few hours.
     
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  14. Design Agent

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    IPs do matter. You think I can go to a university/ internet cafe and click on all my ads from different machines ? There is even a story of someones here where they got banned for setting all the hompages of the university IT dept to their site with adsense on it. Even without cookies the IPs are likely to be the same/ similar and that will be an obvious giveaway.

    On a dialup generally IPs can be similar if they are using the same provider. If you account is flagged for invalid clicks then an IP comparison will provide extra evidence in many cases. On their own they are of much less use, but with other evidence (ctr, cookies, click patterns, referrals etc) it helps.

    Dynamic IPs wont affect your payments if you dont click your ads. Aol uses dynamic IPs.
     
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    I personally have never had a problem with it and we have thousands of students on campus here. Sucks for the people that have had problems =(
     
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    You have your sites set as the homepage and adsense displaying on lots of machines at your university?
     
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    I agree that ips do matter. They rely on a wide assortment of information of which both ips and cookies play a role.

    Don't do anything wrong and you will have little to worry about. People spend too much time fretting over getting in trouble for things they have no control over. Trust me, the system does not work that way. When mistakes have been made they have been corrected.
     
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    As a user who cleans all my temp internet files every time I log off as a matter of course....would I be better off filtering the google cookies out of the cleaning process?
     
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    no .....
    Delete them.
     
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