Don't faint when reading this - the religion of peace in action

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    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


    Turkish Believers Satanically Tortured for Hours before Being Killed


    You are free to disseminate the following news. We request that you reference ICC (International Christian Concern) and include our web address www.persecution.org. Contact Jeff King, President, 1-800-ICC (422)-5441, icc
    (April 25, 2007) The Washington-DC based human rights group, International Christian Concern (ICC) www.persecution.org has just learned that the three Christians who were martyred in Turkey last week were horribly tortured for three hours prior to being killed, as details continue to leak out. As difficult and sorrowful it is to learn more, we believe that we must expose the truly hellish nature of this attack for what it is.




    On Easter Sunday, five of the killers had been to a service that Pastor Necati had arranged in the city. The men were known to the believers as “seekers.” These young men, one of whom is the son of a mayor in the Province of Malatya, are part of a tarikat, or a group of “faithful believers” in Islam. Tarikat membership is highly respected; it’s like a fraternity membership. In fact, it is said that no one can get into public office without membership in a tarikat.

    On the day of the killing, the young Muslim men had arranged to meet the Christians at 10:00 am to ostensibly learn more about the Bible. They had gathered guns, breadknives, ropes and towels (they knew there would be a lot of blood), ready for their act of service to Allah.

    They arrived, and reportedly, after Necati read a chapter from the Bible the assault began. The young men tied Ugur, Necati, and Tilman’s hands and feet to chairs as they videoed their work on their cellphones. What followed in the next three hours is beyond belief.

    Details of the torture—WARNING: graphic content.
    *They were disemboweled, and their intestines sliced up in front of their eyes. They were emasculated and watched as those body parts were destroyed. Fingers were chopped off, their noses and mouths and anuses were sliced open. Possibly the worst part was watching as their brothers were likewise tortured. Tilman was stabbed 156 times, Necati 99 times and Ugur’s stabs were too numerous to count. Finally, their throats were sliced from ear to ear, heads practically decapitated.*

    Meanwhile, another believer arrived at the office around 12:30. The door was locked from the inside, and his key would not work. He phoned and though it had connection on his end he did not hear the phone ringing inside. He called cell phones of his brothers and finally Ugur answered his phone. “We are not at the office. Go to the hotel meeting. We are there. We will come there,” he said cryptically. As Ugur spoke he heard in the telephone’s background weeping and a strange snarling sound.

    He phoned the police, and the nearest officer arrived in about five minutes. He pounded on the door, “Police, open up!” Initially the officer thought it was a domestic disturbance. At that point they heard another snarl and a gurgling moan. The police understood that sound as human suffering, prepared the clip in his gun and tried over and over again to burst through the door. One of the frightened assailants unlocked the door for the policeman, who entered to find a grisly scene.

    Tilman and Necati had been slaughtered, practically decapitated with their necks slit from ear to ear. Ugur’s throat was likewise slit and he was barely alive.

    After Tillman’s wife learned of the brutal death of her husband she publicly forgave the killers saying “they know not what they do.”

    Jeff King, ICC President, stated, “The contrast between the acts of the killers and the forgiveness of Tillman’s wife is glaring and in the end seems to be at the center of this story for us. For in the end, these events serve as a stark reminder of the difference between Islam and Christianity. For the ‘faithful’ Muslims, following their god meant brutally killing three men (“we did this to protect Islam”). For the faithful Christians, following God meant forgiving the men who had tortured and murdered their loved ones.”

     
    Arnie, Apr 26, 2007 IP
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    britishguy Prominent Member

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    Could not get the link reference site to load
     
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  3. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    Works very slowley here, but can access it from here. Try again.
     
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    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    This is not new lol, known all the way, and those "kids" are in prison, that's how the act is seen, "crime". This extreme religious media of yours does not even bother to write what the reason was behind them being attacked, showing it as if they were attacked for being non-believers.

    You just want to relate it to a whole religion again, as you always do once again you offend, and i reported this thread. I'm sorry that you are so obssesed and scared. You need professional help.
     
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    EliteFlyers_com Active Member

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    LeoSeo no matter what caused them to kill like that it is still horrible that it happened.
    Do you not have any regard for human life?
    if someone had to die like this no matter what their religion it should sadden you not have you say, 'lol i already know that, its old news.'
    i cant believe anyone could say that.
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    I don't care where you report this. You can report it everywhere as long as you are warm. Good that more get to see whats going on within religous motivated tortures and slaughters.

    You call it an extreme religious media that reports the truth. You even stated by yourself that this is a common thing, nothing new. So tell me who needs professional help?

    Most of them have no regards for human life. Just remember the thread from yesterday, where one of his buddies tried to stir up hatred, which fortunately got closed.

    Hence the words used in that thread. Non muslims are not regarded as human beings and called respected members in this forum animals, pigs etc..

    They can be friendly for a while, but when they show their real color, then you get results as seen above.

    Anyway, I'm a member of the above org and many others for the fight of viligant freedom, and if things get too far, I'll be glad to have the members who stirr up troubles revealed by court order and to proceed accordingly.
     
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    EliteFlyers_com Active Member

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    Persecution comes with being a Christian.
    Matthew 24:9
    "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me(Christ).

    not saying that justifies what happened though.
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    These are the last days and while we're at it we'll overcome these kind of ideologies as promised. It's not an ongoing event.

    Remember it is also said: "the letters of the law kill"

    Wish someone from the muslims here could explain the 2 different version of the quran. When I asked they always bypassed and lashed out at other subjects to hide their own miseries.
     
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    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    There is no truth in hiding the details, that crap you pasted is nothing different than the extremist media in the Arabic region, the west version of it, relating a criminal issue commited by underage kids to a whole religion in an offensive way. Go learn how many people killed by christians in the history, and then run the very same logic, both is non-sense. You treat news as if; to kill one is a tragedy, to kill a million is.. statistic. Pasting how a violent death occured. On the other threads your fellows talking about nuking countries, making Muslim holocausts, go relate them with religion if you have such a love for relating every bloodthirsty crap to a religion. Also what i stated is, that is not a new thing as it was known from the day it happened, it makes me what, to know what you don't? You really need professional help or this much of hatred will damage your own health.

    Yes i did report it, your provokations are out of the line by far, these sorta topics are everything but news, and for lunatics like yourself. I've seen threads closed for much less, you should be punished for this much of offense, disrespect and provakation, unless the vica versa is what is called for.

    My last post under this, i have nothing to talk with an extremist freak like yourself.
     
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    What a reliable source !
     
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    What's sooo offensive exactly? You may disagree with how the story is presented by the author, but even you stated it's true.
     
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    Not ALLLLLLLLL Muslims are bad guys...
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    And they are ALLLLLLL sooooo friendly. I bet those from above were friendly too, until *cough*...

    Sometime they are sooooo friendly that they give you a red rep with bed words and without mentioning who it is.
     
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    1. I do not give anonymous +/- reps, another proof that some people do not need evidence to accuse others and spread their *****
    2. These sorta theads staying unclosed, and its' owners kept unpunished is nothing but hypocracy, an encouragement to one-sided extremism, considering how it is acted towards others. I have no trust left for fairness around here.
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    getting threatful now?
    Is it you that can't take the truth as it is?
    You proof so!

    Is it fair to toture people to death in the way described and truthfully recalled to peoples attention? - Yes, it is a must to show what's going on.

    Is it fair to the relatives and friends of the deceased to overlook and not even mention pity and instead lashing out against those who obligatory show the truth? - You are quite extreme in your character.

    You call for punishement of those who hold the truth dearly and at the same time claiming victimhood. - Now, that's clear for all here for who you are.

    Did Christians stand up and call death to Turkey? No, even the wife of the deceased pastor forgave your buddies. Do not expect that everyone will do so, especially after you have shown color of your real self and your ideology.
     
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    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    I won't respond every juvenile non-sense of yours. Besides, accusing people without proof is more of a threat, and i am only a member here therefor i have no power or intensions to make threats.

    You and some other(2-3) extremists are constently terrorizing this place, finding some crap of some subjective religionus extremist media which matches your way of thinking and offend people under the cover "truth", and it is tolerated here, it is my right to oppose it, and don't need anyone's permission to word my thought do i? If you are threatened by that, it's not my problem, you seem to be easily scared and threatened by everything anyway.

    I am repeating for a last time, do not address me in your posts anymore; these kind of extremists should NOT be tolerated or you lose your honesty in opposing extremism going on in the "other" world.
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    If you have something to say about this case, then do it and don't quabble nonsense.

    Bring something forward(about the case) that it was not so and I'll accept it when it is true.
    Dancing around the issue and lashing out at those who truthfully show what happened and you whining about it, doesn't give you credit either.
     
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    I don't recall any Christian fanatic groups doing that sort of torture.

    Anyhow, this sort of sick story will not open the eyes of those who wish to remain blind.
     
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