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Domain Registered in 1996 - Does it help?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by factorysealed, Jul 8, 2005.

  1. larysmith711

    larysmith711 Notable Member

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    #41
    Not true! You start from zero only if the domain expires. If you buy an active domain you will retain all the benefits the site had.

    And if you buy an expried domain I think Google is currently the only SE that resets the domain.
     
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    honey Prominent Member

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    #42
    I don't think it matters if the whois details change, because if I change my whois details for an old domain, it won;t hurt the rankings. Therefore the registration details do not matter I think, but the registration date might help. Old domains have a much more probability of ranking higher then an old domain.

    But, I did a test for myself, we were able to rank a new domain that was registered in January this year, better then domains the client had since 1999.
     
    honey, Jul 10, 2005 IP
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    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #43
    Very good point. Not once have I seen the whois change theory in action. google has a lot in the patent that they don't seem to implement.
     
    Blogmaster, Jul 10, 2005 IP
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    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #44
    Honestly: unless I see it, this should be disregarded completely. Who knows what other factors played a role. Unless you let us look at it, I need to assume you are here for only one reason and that would be to back up SEO_AM regardless whether the info is correct or not.
     
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    mjewel Prominent Member

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    #45
    As I said, I have personally experienced it. You haven't given any specifics except a site with no back links (lol).

    A few hours ago you, the "tutor," didn't know what the sandbox was, so your reply about another poster whom I don't know and have never posted to doesn't surprise me. You have posted your "theory" but one that you haven't had any experience with.

    You have been in backpedal mode ever since you started posting on this thread about the sandbox and a site with no links (lol) not experiencing the sandbox on its non-existent links.

    Have a nice day.
     
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    #46
    Well, maybe you can explain the sandbox to me by showing me a domain name that this has happened to so I can check for myself ;)


    And I have done this as well and the rankings on that domain name kept on moving up.
     
    Blogmaster, Jul 10, 2005 IP
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    mjewel Prominent Member

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    #47
    honey, did you change the registar ownership name on a domain on a non-fully developed webiste? That's what we were talking about.

    Google was having a real problem with sites using throw-away sites for cloaking to primarly adult sites. The adult sites didn't care about getting a $10 domain name banned. They then started buying old domains, including expiring domains, to get around the new site sandbox. That's when google changed their policy - on existing domain names (not talking about developed sites) would be grandfathered as long as there was no ownership change. It makes perfect sense, otherwise everyone would be buying expired domains and getting around the sandbox.
     
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    mjewel Prominent Member

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    #48

    Give you an example of a domain that was sandboxed with an ownership change and now is out? Yeah, that would be easy to verify - especially with some paranoid "tutor" who thinks everyone is out from another forum to get them (lol) - a forum I've never posted on, visited, or even heard of. Yeah, I registered a year ago and made a over a hundred posts just to support some guy a year later who pointed out your mistakes (LOL).

    I wasted too much time with you. Carry on, "tutor".
     
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    #49
    Thank you for sharing :cool:
     
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    #50
    Check your cpanel, mjewel (I wanted to clarify something) :cool:
     
    Blogmaster, Jul 10, 2005 IP
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    I. Brian Business consultant

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    #51
    I'd say the whole issue is a little more complicated than simple answers will allow. I certainly know of one old domain that was bought out, and within 4 months hit an Alex rating of about 1600. After four months, the domain was dead in Google.

    I also find it easier to rank older domains than newer ones - but I think the fact that a domain has a history of web presence may well be much more advantageous than one that has no real history.

    Overall, I think there are a number of variables at play.

    2c.
     
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    #52
    I agree. People like to simplify things.
     
    Blogmaster, Aug 4, 2005 IP