Dogs: Iran's new symbol of rebellion

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    I wonder what would the Iranian extremist do if they suddenly found out that their favorite brand of beef that they we're eating for years was in fact 100% pure pork .

    On topic , anything that would take down the Iranian oppressors is OK in my book .
     
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    Hypocrisy and dictators are great friends . I wonder . Did this wackos did anything good for Iran ? It's quite stunning to me how can such a oil rich nation keep it's people in such a sorry state .
     
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    A dog is a faithful friend that would do anything for you. They're simple, honest, easy to understand, all they really want is to be loved. In return, they themselves provide unconditional love and devotion. Right now, as I write this, my dog is sleeping at my feet where he always settles when I'm on the computer. If I get up, he'll follow me wherever I go in the house. When I leave, he'll wait, then on returning greet me with this incredible joy and excitement. I suspect for the Iranians that have dogs, for many, it's not necessarily about rebellion. At least I hope. I think some just might love there dogs, like I do. I suppose kindness to animals is considered as more of a Western trait, which is really a shame. But, honestly dogs don't seem to be very well-treated in any muslim dominated country. It seems twisted that the"moral" police have engaged in cruelty of animals. How moral is that? I would sooner take morality lessons from my dog.
     
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    Yea there is something in quaran that states that they cant see dogs. Black dogs specially. Weird religion wioth weird rules.
    Religion only restricted to what the men want. And even males like dogs. Man they are F*ckers, really feel bad that they do this to dogs adn their owners.
    Quran also provokes child marriage
    it forbids Dating and showing your face to other people, female. (Loooooooool)

    I used to think india is a bad place 2 born. I feel hell lot better watching the arabs follow the weird things.

    Btw i am a man and i love my cute lil dog. Shes faithful to me and Protect fucking me from robbery, if ahppens and she iznt aggressive at all. Great dog TBH

    -XuryaX
     
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    Arthashastra, no. I wasn't aware of it. Until now. Apparently, it's a "ancient Indian treatise on statecraft, economic policy and military strategy which identifies its author by the names Kautilya and Viṣhṇugupta." LOL-copying from Wiki - :)

    I'm not sure what you're wanting me to see, as I'm finding little related directly to the welfare of animals? It's just a list of rules and regulations. In regards to animals from the site you posted, the only regulations I see are:

    In the latter quote, it shows animals as property and a fine if the "property" is stolen. In the first quote about slaying an elephant, I think it might relate to something else I found on Wiki:

    So, the concern over the elephant may have been primarily for economic reasons? But, really, my statement "I suppose kindness to animals is considered as more of a Western trait" was more of a reaction to the fact that clergy in Iran often associate having a dog as a pet, as a Western influence.
     
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    its not about only elephants. but a whole lot of animals. it is perhaps the first book which talks about animal rights etc.

    kindness or cruelty by individual is one thing, and making law on how to protect animals etc, is an altogether different thing.
     
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    Middleast guys dnt treat animals right. in India people love dogs and other animals.
    Its writtenb in quran about dogs and stuff, not to see them etc etc. And you know they follow the mumbo jumbo blindly
     
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    I still don't see where he talked about animal rights, but it's definitely an interesting document; especially when you consider it's estimated to be written sometimes between the 2nd and 4th century!


    Babak, I was reading about the Vafa Animal Shelter that opened in 2004 (I think it's Iran's 1st and only animal shelter?). It seemed like a bit of good news. It's been written about on Iranian.com as well. I wish you could see this video. But, obviously the shelter website is in Iran, so you can see pictures here.

    [video=youtube;n4q6Pz0ngis]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4q6Pz0ngis[/video]
     
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    Your post just reminded me of my pet dog :(

    She was a German Shepherd and was born on the same year as me, my mom brought her as a present for me and would want her to be my sort of like guardian when I grow up. Too bad that she died when I was 15, well it was her time and she was already too old.

    @Topic - I guess it is better to leave your dogs inside your own backyard just to be safe and sure. "Moral" police huh? how about Dipstick police?
     
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    The Iranian regime has had since it's beginning a religious police . So has Saudi Arabia and other ruthless regimes .
     
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    for that dont you think you need to read the book in whole. its a bit harsh to judge a whole book from few lines as quoted in wiki.
     
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    Thanks Rebecca. Seems vafa shelter is an amenity site 60 Km vest of Tehran to help homeless dogs! So interesting! vafa means faithful

    I remember time that having dog been disapproval in Iran and dog owners looks arrogant in people view but now seems everything changed people proud of walking with their small dog and having dog isn't just for rich people.

    Seems anything that is disapproval for our regimen, would support and approve by people.

    We have a good singer name Alireza Eftekhari. Nearly six months ago he met Ahmadinejad and they hugged each other, after that he hadn't easy time any more, even shopkeepers around his home refuse to sell things to him.
    In this sound he complain of people behavior.
    http://irannegah.com/Video.aspx?id=2106

     
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    I'm not sure if this is on topic or not but owning a dog in the US has become a bit of a luxury. I have a purebred shepherd I kept as a guard dog in central America. He was constantly fighting mange, which is common in tropical environments, so I had the vet come up to the house once a month for a shot which cost about 20$ including the visit. I bring him back here($1000 in airline fees) and one of the things that makes him a good guard dog(barking) makes him a nuisance to my neighbors($200 in dog license and threat of fines for continued barking). He was still fighting the mange, so my wife brought him to a local vet who apparently had never seen mange($500 in blood work and tests). The vet still couldn't come up with a diagnosis, so she brought him to another vet (another $500 in blood work and tests). This vet laughs at the first vet when it turns out that mange is evident on the first skin scrape. The perscribed treatment regiment is set to exceed $2500 a year, so my wife ends up buying a health care plan from Petco to reduce the costs of the treatment ($450 a year). Five months later, the dog still has mange and the vet issues worming medicine to the animal which is the same as the medicine the dog is receiving for mange, so the dog overdoses and nearly dies. My wife rushes the animal to the same vet who, looking very concerned, says we should immediately do a panel of tests for $250 to find out what is wrong. I fire the vet, bring the dog home, call my back woods vet from Costa Rica and ask him for the name of the mange treatment medicine. I order it online for $25 and start feeding the dog whole chickens(high fat diet helps combat manged caused anemia), and two months later the dog looks perfect.

    Throw in an extra $1000/month in rent for a house that will permit a 110 pound animal and I start to feel it might be easier to own a dog in Iran.
     
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    I haven't any dog so far but my wife had. Obamanation as I see you had to pay a lot for a dog, so if you want to have dog come here, no any tax or extra fee/ vat you have to pay, just some times our moral police tease you! lol
    for Iranian authority no family have to had do as we haven't any gay! so no vat or tax about dog in our law or regulation existed.
     
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    Thats it! I'm moving to Iran to save money on my dog! You got an extra room?
     
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    Its actually cuz o d vets. Sometimes some amateurs dont know what is ryt.In iran, moral police dont like dogs :S like moral police dont like dating here in India. No one dares 2 date i think in Iran. Its just those nations are socially undeveloped.
     
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    I'm just wondering, do you remember the name of the mange treatment medicine the veterinarian from Costa Rica recommended? I don't have a dog with mange, but would be interested in researching that medicine. Once I wrote about mange for my blog, and had numerous comments from readers about how difficult it was to treat.

    It's a shame that dogs don't have a longer life span. When I was growing up we had a Black Lab/German Shepherd mix. She was such a wonderful dog, and so well-mannered. At this time, I have a Pomeranian, and I love him with all my heart. With me, he's extremely gentle, loving, and sweet, but with anyone else, extremely difficult to handle. He's a one person dog, and highly protective of me, not sure if that's just a normal breed trait for Pomeranians.


    "vafa means faithful" - Then, that's a very appropriate name for a dog shelter. :) Do you think you'll ever get a dog? If so, what's your favorite breed?
     
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