does this site violate TOS?

Discussion in 'Guidelines / Compliance' started by yaffer, Apr 21, 2006.

  1. #1
    i found this site on sitepoint forums. seems too integrated to me. any thoughts?
     
    yaffer, Apr 21, 2006 IP
  2. BILZ

    BILZ Peon

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    #2
    Where are the ads? i dont even see them? hehe. They've got em pretty well blended with the page there.
     
    BILZ, Apr 21, 2006 IP
  3. yaffer

    yaffer Active Member

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    #3
    i'm wondering if most people "play to the whistle" and push things untill google taps them on the shoulder and warns them.
     
    yaffer, Apr 21, 2006 IP
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    #4
    slick page!
     
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    #5
    People uses this technique all the time. It's the next "big thing" in ad blending, a smaller version of the "put pics next to your 336 ads". As long there is some space between the image and the ads, as they are doing it here, it should be okay. Google has approved this many times before.
     
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  6. superclick

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    #6
    I don't think that integration of the pictures is problem with this site main problem of this site is lack of any content. I think that is violation of TOS.
     
    superclick, Apr 21, 2006 IP
  7. Notting

    Notting Notable Member

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    #7
    that page is pretty sexy if you ask me

    Notting
     
    Notting, Apr 22, 2006 IP
  8. yaffer

    yaffer Active Member

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    #8
    you don't think the ads are made to look like part of the navigation? i clicked on an add by accident.
     
    yaffer, Apr 22, 2006 IP
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    #9
    That is the point. Since Google suggest you blend the ads to begin with how far you can go is all up for interpretation. I would say they are within the TOS except for the fact that the ads are labeled with "latest tutorials" that is a huge grey area.
     
    toomuch72, Apr 22, 2006 IP
  10. manuelb

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    #10
    My opinion: its against the TOS. If I do remember correctly there should be more space and a border around the pics.



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  11. DanNicol

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    #11
    google has oked these type placements as long as the
    "ads by google" is visable. Email them they will tell you this placement is fine
     
    DanNicol, Apr 23, 2006 IP
  12. Janet

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    #12
    I don't know if it is against TOS, but in my opinion this type of stuff is going too far. Blending is one thing......

    Edit: Now, that I look at the site more and went through more pages, I think the headings on each list may be against TOS. 'Most viewed tutorials', 'Our text tutorials', etc. What does everyone else think?
     
    Janet, Apr 23, 2006 IP
  13. JamesColin

    JamesColin Prominent Member

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    #13
    Of course it is against TOS when they say that you cannot libelled the ads other than "sponsored links".
    For example this page has nothing else than 2 ads:
    http://www.sigtutorials.com/tutorials/animation/
     
    JamesColin, Apr 23, 2006 IP
  14. Janet

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    #14
    So, it is okay to label the ads 'Sponsor Links'? Just for future reference.
     
    Janet, Apr 23, 2006 IP
  15. toomuch72

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    #15
    It is really hard to say what Google thinks is a border. The SQUARE already has its own border just by the picture ending. And using this site as an example there is actually a tiny bit of white space in comparison to the REAL links. So he has done what Google has asked.

    Now does it make it RIGHT? No prolly not.


    As far as "sponsored links" That is the proper listing. Google also accepts "advertisements."
    Here is an exact quote from the Google help pages
     
    toomuch72, Apr 23, 2006 IP
  16. jaspervd

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    #16
    Hi,

    im the owner of sigtutorials and found this forum when I checked my backlinks on google.

    I already contacted google and asked them if my placement was ok, they said it wasnt allowed, because the images make people click on the adds, withouth knowing it.

    But they didnt say anything about the "latest tutorials" on top of my adds, so I guess that is allowed.

    Here was the answer from google for the people that can read dutch :)
    Ik heb vastgesteld dat door het gebruik van plaatjes op
    http://www.sigtutorials.com/ onnodig veel aandacht wordt gevestigd op de
    Google-advertenties die u via Google AdSense weergeeft. Op deze manier
    worden gebruikers aangespoord om op de advertenties te klikken die u via
    Google AdSense weergeeft. Als gebruikers echter op advertenties klikken,
    maar niet de intentie hebben om klant te worden, kan dit de kosten voor de
    adverteerders kunstmatig verhogen. Dergelijke activiteiten zijn daarom
    niet in overeenstemming met ons programmabeleid.
    
    Code (markup):

    Im now trying to find out a way to stay inside the google tos, anyone got some suggestions for my website?

    (Its a pitty my adds arent allowed, I easily have a 10%+ CTR on most pages, with adds bringing in something like 40 cents a click)
     
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  17. JamesColin

    JamesColin Prominent Member

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    #17
    Honestly don't bother, try this and you will be so surprised:

    One 728x15adlink at the top of your page
    then just below three 728x90 leaderboard! set thecolors like you want, doesn't matter.

    Try this for a day and please report here for the result!

    ps: use collapsing units if you know what that is.
     
    JamesColin, May 11, 2006 IP
  18. MrSupplier

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    #18
    good blending tho
     
    MrSupplier, May 11, 2006 IP
  19. Tearabite

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    #19
    i would have guessed that your tutorial pages, which are nothing more than "Our whatever tutorial" and then a bunch of ads would have gotten you tossed already..
    Looks totally MFA, and a slap in the face for us with sites with some actual content in them..
    (but it does LOOK nice)
     
    Tearabite, May 12, 2006 IP
  20. tonyinabox

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    #20
    i think google not happy. LOL
     
    tonyinabox, May 12, 2006 IP