Does the Bible or the Quran speak of the brain?

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  1. kafer

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    Since they claim that the holy books are divine and from god. Then god should have known better that the brain in the head is a vital part of the thinking mechanism. He “god” gave the wrong misleading impression that the heart was.

    I don’t think our views on this differ much.

    Yes the mind is related to mental thinking that originates from the brain “The Head”. They thought it originated from the heart.
     
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    You buy that?
     
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    #23
    Isn't the mind used in many places? Things coming from the "heart" is a common phrase to use; compassion et al. It doesn't imply that people believe the heart actually plays a role in it, though.

    Also, given that the word "brain" didn't even exist at the time, I wouldn't find the absence shocking either. Back then, lots of words didn't exist. I wouldn't punish people because the word wasn't available for use.
     
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    Sure It doesn’t imply that.

    But most us now know that emotion has nothing to do with the heart, we only use the heart in a poetic context. However when we talk about intelligence we refer to the head (I got this idea in my head).

    Are you saying that the bible actually meant the head (brain), but since the term wasn’t there it used the heart instead or a vague reference to the mind in the soul?

    Not even scientists knew of the importance of the brain only until recently and for the last 1000s of years people thought of the heart as being the vital part of our body.

    For instant just few hundred years back people thought of the heart as:




    The term brain existed in Greek it was encephalon ("in the head"). Why then your god’s inspirations to the apostles didn’t tell them to use their head to understand things instead of pointing to the heart?
     
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    #25
    It'd be hard to know, looking back thousands of years what the context was. That's kind of my point. Tying things up into - "they didn't say brain" I don't think is a great argument, personally. What is the word used in the original text (not the translations) - I think that'd be a good starting point.

    This is much the same point I use for when the bible says "god created the world in 6 days" - "days" is a translation. The actual word used, as far as I know, is "yom" - which means day or half day, or several days, or even an indefinite period of time.

    Let's say god gave the bible to people to write (I don't believe this, BTW, I'm just making a vocabulary issue out of this), then you cannot explain a concept (I made the world in 6 billion years or whatever) if the concept isn't already understood. Yom (day or indefinite period of time) works just as well.

    It'd be much like if some alien came to earth and attempted to explain some concept about space travel - we have no clue what he's talking about, so he simplifies it to us to make it understandable.

    When in greek was it developed? And, again, I think the original word and the possible translations might help out too.
     
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