Does sites need to have PR to get accepted into DMOZ?

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by TheAlchemist, Oct 23, 2007.

  1. #1
    Hello,

    I submitted my website (in the signature) twice to DMOZ since June. I can see from traffic logs that the editor visited my site. still, no listing yet. the website does not have PR yet. can this be the cause? also, how long does it take to get PR? the site has been live since June and I submitted to a few directories already.

    thanks
     
    TheAlchemist, Oct 23, 2007 IP
  2. donttrustthisposter

    donttrustthisposter Peon

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    #2
    The only way into DMOZ is to pay off a corrupt editor (or become one), has nothing to do with Pagerank.

    PR update hasn't updated in months, just be patient.
     
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  3. crowbar

    crowbar Peon

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    #3
    No, page rank is not something an editor cares about or even considers, we look for unique content on the site that would benefit a web surfer looking for specific information about a topic or geographic area.

    It probably wasn't an editor, we have automated QC tools that look for problem urls. :)

    Also, many sites are submitted to the wrong category, so an editor may have been checking and moving sites to the proper category.
     
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    bogs Active Member

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    #4
    you can also try reading dmoz blog for more info... ;-)
     
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  5. crowbar

    crowbar Peon

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    Yes, thank you, the blog is official AOL staff speaking to you, including our Editor-in-Chief, so it's got a lot more weight than anything I say. :) I'm nothing more than a minor volunteer editor.

    http://blog.dmoz.org/
     
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  6. MultiMedia

    MultiMedia Peon

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    #6
    I think that it takes a long time + you need a great site to get listed on DMOZ, from experience as a submitter. Sometimes I can find my sites listed on DMOZ, but only a few of the sites that I submit, not all.
     
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  7. crowbar

    crowbar Peon

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    Some of the nicest sites I've seen were very unsophisticated, simple, but charming and ingenious. They got right to the point as far as giving the web surfer exactly the information they came there looking for without a lot of searching. :)

    I don't think any editor ever judges the sophistication of the site design, that's not our job. We only look at the sites content, and search for what we consider to be the "unique content" that other sites in that category might not have.

    What we try to do is to find sites that will add value to the category from a web surfers view.

    Car dealership and Real Estate cookie cutter sites might be a good example. They all have the same exact blah, blah information on them, just different names and urls.

    If an RE agent tells what kind of properties he specializes in, and something about his personal experience, qualifications, and perhaps his involvement in that community, that would be the kind of unique content that a buyer/seller would find useful to know before choosing an agent.

    We wouldn't compare one RE company with another, that's not our job, we judge the content on the site and what value it adds to the category.

    I don't know if I'm explaining this well. Every category is a little different. If I'm editing in a Watergarden category, sites that have photos of personally built watergardens and how they built it, would be one of a kind information (unique content). If they had two sites with the same information, then only one site would have unique content, and the other wouldn't be listed.
     
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  8. compostannie

    compostannie Peon

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    #8
    I think you've explained it very well. ;)
     
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  9. crowbar

    crowbar Peon

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    Thank you, Annie, but you're much more knowledgeable than I am, :).
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #10
    DMOZ blog is more of the same sh*t as internal forum and RZ where the posts are censored and the usual nonsense about there is nothing wrong with DMOZ is posted.

    It also gives an extra opportunity to "some" of the editors that we all know, another media to praise their masters in hope of getting higher rank in DMOZ but these editors are known to all editors and everyone just laughs at them. :)
     
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  11. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #11
    At a glance, your forums just don't seem to have enough in them yet. Give it some time, build up your member base, and your thread/post counts, and try again in another couple of months. Make sure there are no 0's in there.

    I think that many editors that look at sites with a forum, or where the forum is the main part, or even a big part, of a site will look at the members and how many threads/posts there are and if the numbers are small, the editor will fear that the site does not have the staying power that other sites might have.

    When I was an editor (of a chats & forums category), I took note of several sites that had potential, but held off on adding them to see if they would still be active in a few months...your listing could be in a similar situation. Though be careful, do not submit too often, it'll look like spam.

    Best of luck, and nice site ;)
    Q
     
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  12. robjones

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    Alchemist - The guy above me sharing the expertise on how HE would have handled it added exactly 3 sites after the 3 on his application to get in.

    He isn't an editor, he wasn't really one during the brief days he had a login, but he sits in here pretending to be an expert every day now. It's a little strange, but be aware he doesn't have enough knowledge to wad a shotgun. :rolleyes:
     
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  13. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #13
    Well, its certainly nice to see that you replied to this thread in a helpful manor. Now tell the guy that I lost my DMOZ listing because you watched it till it 404ed. Then tell him that the best way to get a listing is to become an editor, as the wait time is ungodly because people like you are too busy in here contradicting anything a non-editor says.

    Now tell me that I was wrong in my assessment of his site, and that my post was somehow unhelpful. Now tell me how your post was helpful to his cause...
     
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  14. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

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    #14
    You are done getting to routinely pretend to be some Dmoz elder statesman.

    You're on any day about 50/50 when it comes to getting info correct. If they have to choose between asking you and flipping a coin they are in the same boat either way. Get another hobby.
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #15
    Well, being an elder statesmen yourself, I'm sure you would not mind actually answering the original post?

    Now again, tell me where I was wrong in my assessment, or give a better answer. Anything else just makes the real editor in this discussion look like a troll.
     
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  16. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

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    Crowbar covered it, Annie verified his work... but you needed attn & had to add your two cents as if you had a clue.

    I don't feel a need to add anything except to warn him about taking expertise from people that expound on subjects without any idea what they're talking about.
     
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  17. OnlinePerson

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    I don't believe that's the only way, just the easiest. :D
     
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    #18
    Just in case the OP does not know, anyone caught trying to bribe or bribing an editor to get into the directory gets a lifetime ban, just in case anyone reading tries and then wants to come here and whinge that they got banned and no appeal.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    I bet if you take up hunting as a hobby, you will only shoot pigeons. :D
     
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    Had to give up hunting after an unfortunate misunderstanding of terminology. I still say calling it "Tourist Season" is misleading. :rolleyes:

    Anyway, in this case it isn't hunting, it's "pest control".
     
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