Does ppc pushes up your site pr

Discussion in 'Pay Per Click Advertising' started by jameskon, Apr 5, 2006.

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    when we are talking about running a ppc campain, we are actully submitting a one way link to a search engine, so does anyone of you have any idea about this that will these links are counted to one way links to our site and effects sites pr what so ever.
     
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  2. kila

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    It did push up the PR,but not much.
     
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  3. jameskon

    jameskon Well-Known Member

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    Then if we are getting the traffic and pr with ppc only, what the hell is SEO for.

    Main consern for a commercial site is traffic and not pr.
     
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    PPC links are not counted as backlinks to your site and will not pass PR.
     
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    jameskon Well-Known Member

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    Thats what exactly i am foxed in. ppc means that our link is on the search engine listing, does that mean that search engines only count seo relevent results or links search engine results are not counted as back links.
     
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  6. mad4

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    Your advert will be on the search engine listing but the links pass through a redirect that won't pass PR. Also the search engine results won't be indexed by search engines.
     
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    That's because ads are made with javascript, and Google doesn't read javascript. Quite simple
     
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  8. jameskon

    jameskon Well-Known Member

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    Thanks to all of you for your time & Support

    Regards,
    Jameskon
     
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    jameskon Well-Known Member

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    Does that means ppc listings are not indexed by search engines, but i have heard that search engines checks the landing page for the keywords before accepting the keyword. in many cases the pages are already indexed but what if they are not, can this be a reason for a keyword to drop.
     
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    The PPC listings and serps themselves are not indexed by search engines but this has no relation to whether the linked page is indexed or not.
     
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    Slightly off topic here, but I have concerns that, despite it being refuted on numerous occasions, that AdWords advertisers are penalized with SERPS in some way.

    If I were running Google, I would not want my advertisers to stop advertising because another division of my company handed them free advertising.

    Cynical, paranoid, maybe! :p

    Sorry to go off topic a little.
     
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    I'm not so sure you're wrong with that 'paranoid' conclusion. I recently was running adwords for my site with a particular search phrase. In the organic listings I was about 30th place for that phrase at that time, but about 5 days after stopping my AdWords campaign that placement jumped up to 5th. Could be a coincidence of course.
     
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  13. malekov

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    exactly, SE's doesnt count their own external links from SERPS
     
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  14. aaron_nimocks

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    Ok I will think outside the box.

    Does running PPC ads help raise your PR? Yes.

    While it doest directly because of using javascript as explained above it does indirectly. Basically the more people know about your site the more natural links are going to be built and the more your PR will rise.

    I know I am stretching it there, but theres some truth to it. :)
     
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  15. jameskon

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    i don't think so; in no way what so ever can a ppc link effect PR.

    seo & PPC are completely different phenomenon. PPC is through Adwords and Adword data base is not counted while considring listing in search engine other wise a site running PPC will easily end up with 1000's of one way link from google itself. just thing your self if it goes like this who will care about quality of site and optimization.
     
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    but it's a lot longer of churn time than optimizing your site thru seo.

    Also, what are you guys finding with product selling online for adult type merchandise. I have some campaigns running in overture. I am getting a lot of click volume but hardly any call to purchase
    Yet the campaigns I am running in some other industries are doing lots of conversions.

    Any thoughts on this one. Do men/women shop on google for adult type merchandise.

    this campaign is really grinding me down.
    thanks:D
     
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  17. jameskon

    jameskon Well-Known Member

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    Does that mean that making ads in some thing other than java script will get even your paod listing indexed.:eek:
     
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  18. aaron_nimocks

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    I dont think you read my whole statement.

    I didnt say a ppc link can raise PR. I said running a PPC campaign could raise it due to getting your site seen by people and then having a return effect of people linking to it.
     
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    Thats a very informative dude!
     
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  20. jameskon

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    do you want to say that increased traffic will effect pr!!

    but i feel amount of traffic plays a must smaller role in context of pr, you got to spend a huge amount of money for just little....

    we run ppc for traffic and if traffic is comming through in whatever way!! who the hell cares for PR
     
    jameskon, Jun 8, 2006 IP