Matter how? Can any of you here be more specific and provide some real concrete empirical evidence to support these claims?
Well, Think of it this way. if page rank wasnt important google would get read of it completly dont you think. So thus i think it is some what important. Google panda just wants you to do more on unique content. Its not really scary like people act like it is.
That really does not explains why its important, nor does it illustrate what aspects of it are important.
if you are selling backlinks to some webmasters then pagerank will matter as some of us will look at it as basis of the decisions whether to buy or not.
Unfortunately 90% of the webmasters still believe that PR is the most important factor in a site's value that is why it is still important. If you'd like to change, sell etc. links you have better offers when your PR is higher. Pity if you have some new websites like I have.
It mattered if you wanted to sell your site or links for big bucks.. That's about it. Those days are LONG gone..
Yes PR is important. And yes, it's outdated. The latest Google toolbar PR update was on January 19/20 2011.
The problem with the TBPR, which I run into on a daily basis is when I am running link building, is that the focus tends to end up only on PR. I have had link-builders say "we have gotten 10 PR5 links bla bla bla..." but the links tend to be of little or no value because of non-related content or a gazillion other links on the page to bad neighborhoods. I tend to focus on other parameters more strongly than the TBPR. I would, for example be happy to get a link from a page with TBPR0 - if the other signals I check for provide value. I'm not saying don't look at TBPR, I do use it for some analysis. I am saying however that if your linking pitch is "this is a PR4 website".well then good luck with that.
That was a pretty great explanation. I'm kind of new to all of this type of stuff and you're absolutely right, it does get confusing. thanks for helping to clear it up. It really did help.
You mean like 5, 6 years ago? PR was never important for real webmasters but 1 Million plus of guys in far east think otherwise. So take it from me and forget about PR and start worry about SERP. fastreplies
yes its just a number but if you have low pagerank people looking to advertise tend to go else-wear. I know of 3 occasions that customers who wanted to purchase listings on our sites only paid due to our high pagerank.. and yes the listing were on topic. One customer emailed us to ask us not to change the page url due to pagerank.. so basically i dont agree with pageRank just being a number.. its a sign of link back authority. ( likes ) Google directory even use it next to their listings. PageRank is good branding in the minds of potential customers if you like it or not thats the bottom line.
Again, people who are know what they are doing fully understand that only SERP may and will bring attention of visitors to Search Engines to your site if your site is in top 50 and consequentially that will bring visitors to their sites. Your PR won't make it possible because PR has nothing to do with SERP and because people who are looking for products care less about PR your site has but rather care if your SERP position matches their query. So, when savvy marketers pay for ads to some site, they are looking where that site in SERP in relation to their keywords and not about how good site owner feels about his PR. fastreplies
of course search position is the major factor, your only stating the obvious to make point that page rank isn't important.. Ranking is first priority, but your missing a point. it's about targeted traffic. Anyone can rank in google for certain keywords and key phrases but if your site has no authority then you have less chance of ranking well for competitive keyword and keyphrases. Search results go hand in hand with the PageRank algorithm ( Google's opinion of your site ) . Even if you think it's not important - it is.. but i agree its not the first priority or should be the main focus.. We all know its about building quality content. But at the end of the day, if you have high PageRank, your site clearly has a good opinion from Google's point of view - that's important for many reasons.
Bull shit. Google's algo cares only about content of site but if you have any facts to proof it otherwise, I'm more than willing to see your proof. Article written by Matt Cutts or his utube video will do. fastreplies
nice to see you using intelligent words in your discussions.. Again, another user posting points that don't need clarifying. No one has said content isnt King. But you also should consider the science and mathematics behind search = pagerank. it's not just a green bar. ffs.. tut anyway, you asked for evidence on the point i made about PageRank being google's opinion ( reputation of a site ) --> point being made @ 0:14 seconds.. and again at 01:38 youtube.com/watch?v=h3Jup5R1MGY so as i said above PageRank is google's opinion on the reputation of a page - links to a page and how important they are..