Does not make sense?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by majestic12, Oct 26, 2008.

  1. #1
    Hi there.

    For a month or so I have been watching one of my sites lose indexed pages... today I ran a check on a couple of the de-indexed pages... when I run a site:http://www.mysite.com/pageinquestion ...... indexing check on google to double check the pages do not show up they are indeed missing, when I take a unique keyword phrase from these missing pages and run a google search google shows the pages even though the index check via google showed they are not indexed...

    Anyone know why this is happening?

    Regards David
     
    majestic12, Oct 26, 2008 IP
  2. T_Media

    T_Media Peon

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    #2
    because the site command only works for the root domain?

    Not sure on this one - someone verify please.
     
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    kidsnscience Banned

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    #3
    if you would like to check internal page, you used cache command follow with internal url
     
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    iluvme77 Banned

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    Man I had this same problem. I bought a directory listing service from some one and AFTER they said they had submitted my site, I started losing links! I had 12,650 backlinks before I bought their service. After their service I was down to 4,200!!!! I just can't understand this.
     
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  5. T_Media

    T_Media Peon

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    #5
    Depends which service you're using to check your backlinks. Google hides many. Yahoo shows more, but even then it only shows the ones it counts.

    Your backlinks won't have physically disappeared.

    I have used directory submission services in the past. I know that after using them Yahoo has sometimes shown a drop in number of backlinks, presumably the repeated anchor text has caused Yahoo to ignore most or all of the links containing that specific anchor text. This would also mean any previous links you had using the same anchor text may also be ignored.

    Suprisingly Google seemed more appeasing.
     
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    I cannot understand as well, what is happening?
     
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  7. majestic12

    majestic12 Peon

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    The site command works for all pages, that is why I am puzzled.. on the one hand google is telling em the pages have been de-indexed yet when I search for a unique phrase on the page it shows in the search results..

    Very puzzling..

    Regards David
     
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    catanich Peon

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    #8
    Google will only show links that they feel are valuable. I have over 5,000 links but show only 150. Both Yahoo and MSN show over 20,000.

    Only the links that show up in your Webmaster Tools Account count and have meaning. It's what Google will use for PR and anything else is just a waist of your time. Just set up the GWT for your site.
     
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    #9
    I did not know that Yahoo ignores most of the links containing a specific anchor text... Ignoring means that it does not counting them?
    How you can do then link building - manually you will modify the anchor text of course, but from how many the problem appears? Hundreds of links with the same anchor text? Does anyone know?
     
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  10. T_Media

    T_Media Peon

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    I say ignore. What actually happened is I overused a particular anchor text in directories and then after some time notice that my link count went down according to Yahoo and my record plummeted.

    I belive Yahoo concluded I was trying to manipulate results (which I was) and decided to ignore all suspicious links, i.e: the ones that over used the same anchor text.
     
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  11. chosenlight

    chosenlight Active Member

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    #11
    I dont think you guys are understanding his question. I dont think he is talking about links. He is talking about indexing. So for example he puts in google "site : http://www.HisSite.com" and google returns 12 pages when it previously returned 15 pages. And when he comes and searches for a term that appears in one of the pages that IS NOT shown when he searched site : http://www.hissite.com, the SERP results show his page on there.

    I had the same question too, i asked in different forums and never got a decent answer. What i did notice though is that overtime this settles down and the your older page will always be indexed. Try also submitting a site map if you havent already... But its no big deal, as long as the page is showing in the SERP results thats what you really care about. I think that Google's "Site:" search is just as bad as their "Link:" search..

    my 2 cents
     
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  12. majestic12

    majestic12 Peon

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    #12
    Thanks for your input everyone, actually as chosenlight noted I am concerned with indexed pages and non indexed pages.... to be precise pages "not" showing up in the index check yet they show in search results... my concern was my site was getting banned but the pages still seem to show up in searches..

    Regards David
     
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    #13
    I agree with you. If you really want to know if the specific url is already indexed search the full url on search engine like this http://www.domain.com/folder/post.html
     
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  14. chosenlight

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    #14
    I am always RIGHT :) :) :)

    Don't Worry, you are not banned, Google is just being Google.

    Let me know when those pages show up again as "Re-indexed"...we could compare results
     
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    i may just be pulling at strings here, but would this have anything to do with the fact that google caches websites? i dunno, i may be totally off, just a thought.
     
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    chosenlight Active Member

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    Umm....When Google Cashes a website The material that appears on the SERP DOES NOT change, the content is whatever is on the server....so yah cache is irrelevant in this case
     
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    What it is happening if the particular anchor text is not in directories, but in different sites?
     
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    #18
    Same thing could happen, doesn't have to be directories.
     
    T_Media, Nov 16, 2008 IP