Does Huckabee know anything of foreign policy?

I'm working on it.

With you 4 tits anything is possible mate.

 

Whew, thanks! I like to stay "abreast" of the fatwas. Also, not to "milk" your generosity here, but could check and see if the fatwa database comes back with any "hits" for: +gtech +head

I'm planning my spring vacation and I don't want to "head off" in the wrong direction, if you know what I mean

 

lol dude you should be working for The Sun newspaper in the UK with lame double entendres like that!

It's owned by Rupert Murdoch who is a total neocon supporter so I reckon you will fit right in. Fnarr! fnarr!

 

Actually, it had everything to do with such. Like Mike, you need to bone up on your Pakistani foreign policy.

Only 19 Hijackers GTech? What about the FBI intel about training to learn to fly planes but not land them? What about Bin Laden getting medical assistance and not being arrested?

19 Hijackers, and this war has cost us over $600 Billion dollars, a massive loss of civil liberties, and thousands of deaths, 10s of thousands of wounded. And that's not even touching on the destruction in Afghanistan and Iraq.

More fear, more war. That's your mantra. Global Jihadism, Islamo-Fascism. More fear, more war.

Who radicalized the Islamics GTech? Since 1953, who has been radicalizing Muslims against America? There was a time when Americans would vacation in Iran in the late 40s. What changed?

I'll give you a hint. When you kill a popular elected leader who is going to nationalize industry and lock out the oil tycoons, then you give the country to a violent and torturous authoritarian, while feeding their enemy Saddam Hussein with aid, weapons etc which he has no problem using not only on his enemies, but his own people, while condoning, and even enhancing the Saudi Oligarchy which is a brutal regime, then people get kinda pissed off when you parade around claiming to "make the world safe for democracy."

Imagine for a minute, that the Chinese killed Reagan, landed troops here and reformed our government in their image. Would you be ok with that?

What if the Chinese worked with the Russians during the cold war, feeding Russia nuclear weapons to be used against the US? Would you accept them intervening in our country and telling us how to live our lives?

It's the principle GTech. You either get it, or you don't. Eisenhower offered a haunting caution at the end of his last Presidential address. Google it up. This country has been hijacked for some time, Goldwater knew it, Reagan knew it and Paul knows it. They all come from the same tree of libertarian thinking.

 

GTech, you seem to think that the USA is immune to doing anything wrong or causing any problems, everytime the USA has caused a problem all you say it's "just blaming america again". So what are you trying to say, that America is perfect?

 

Incorrect. I'm pointing out the exact opposite...that Guerilla and others like him see nothing right with America.

Notice the opposite polars?

It is "blaming America first." Notice how when Guerilla gets called on it and really gets into the "blame" mode, he'll quickly go from one event, to another, to another and it becomes an endless blame game of pawning off blame for every major world problem that's happened since 1953 is America's fault.

Somehow, he's convinced himself that this is patriotism. I believe it is more of a psychological issue, that some people are "afflicted" with this sort of behavior, and would like to learn more about it, to better understand it.

It would not be unlike you with your religion. One of the few things I've really admired about muslims. You stick together and you confront the infidels collectively, as a group, with one mission...to defend your religion. I've rarely ever seen a muslim, in a debate with other muslims in regards to infidels, step outside of the "muslim view" to dissent in favor of the infidel.

So understanding that, you can see where I come from. I'm as passionate about my country as you are about your religion. When you perceive people to be attacking your religion, you (and others) will stand up and defend, as you should. I'm simply doing the same thing you would do for your religion, but with my country.

I am the same way about my country as you are about your religion. You will stand up for your religion and you will back up your fellow muslims and stand together, united. This is a fascinating and admirable trait I've always admired about muslims. It's really a shame we "infidels" cannot do the same.

"United we stand, divided we fall."

 

Carry on pursuing the Muslim angle GT, it will be your downfall at the end of the day.

Learn to suppress your hatred, you are getting worse each and every day.

 

When patriotism becomes religion, that's fascism.

 

Ok actually from that post I have gathered a greater understanding of you now and I can respect that, infact you make alot more sense hehe, but even though I can totally 100% see where you are coming from, my opinion is that to correct a problem, you must admit there is one and that you are a part of it, because if you do not know the root cause of the problem then it is never going to be fixed.

Say for examples, you say Muslims stick together no matter what, there is a big problem in the Muslim community at the moment. Saudis and other gulf countries are smearing Shias to be some sort of Camel worshippers, they say that Shias believe the Quran is incomplete, they say that Shias are not even Muslims and they spread lies such as the ones I mentioned, which leads to civil war and death, while it would be hard for us to admit there was a problem within the Islamic community, we have to admit there is a problem to address the issue, and I feel the same way about America.

I know we differ opinions greatly I guess we just have different ways of trying to address issues, that's all it comes down to in my opinion, we both want the best but what is the best way to do it?

 

The problem with GTech is that he has no knowledge of history, economics, or philosophy.

He doesn't understand the intent of the Founders, I bet he barely knows the Constitution.

When you tell him about CIA intervention in Iran or Iraq, he has no background on it. When you tell him about central banking and fiat money, he doesn't know the concepts.

There is a lot of good in America. You can find a lot of it in homeschoolers, Christians of conscience, the free market creativity and passion of the people, the passionate defense of the nation by the armed forces for example.

But you aren't going to find it amongst the people like John McCain who sing "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran" or Rudy Giuliani who make 9/11 fear mongering a key component of their platform, when they haven't even read the 9/11 Commission Report.

To be fair, you aren't going to find it with corrupt politicians like Hillary Clinton who raise money illegally, lie on their financial disclosures and buy votes. Or Obama, who thinks that taxation and government can solve the world's problems.

You're also not going to find a lot of Patriots in the intelligence community, who didn't sniff out 9/11 or respond to their own internal reports of suspicious activity, and who manufactured evidence to provoke a war with Iraq.

It's one thing to love your country, it's another thing to love every scoundrel who approaches you wearing the flag and bearing a cross.

There was a time when government was small, and we could endorse it as citizens. But the government now is massive, secretive, fiscally reckless and inefficient. It doesn't reflect American values like truth, prosperity or honor.

And I refuse to condone illegal and immoral actions by my government. I can't do it in good conscience. I think those that do endorse everything the government does, good, and and ugly simply do not want to have that moment of a moral gut check for themselves. They don't want to know what's wrong, they just hope the shit does not end up landing on them.

 

Did the previous governor of Arkansas? Did anyone before becoming president? I know GWB had little experience with it.. That is why the president surrounds themselves with cabinet members who do. No one can know everything.

I think it is too early to look at any candidates understanding of FP, without first looking at who they choose to surround themselves with on the way to the White House.

 

That pretty much sums it up. GTech said a few years back he voted for Clinton, and he just had no idea about politics and what he really stood for. In the past 10 years, that has changed significantly, as GTech has educated himself on the distinction between liberals and conservatives, left and right, and tried to find where he fits on the map. For this, I give him credit, in doing so he's done more than a large majority of Americans.

Unfortunately, you are correct Guerilla, in that it's only part of the equation. GTech lacks a strong backing in the areas you mentioned, and it's only once you understand these things that you can see the folly of our ways in the past 7 years. When you read the writings of our Founders, you don't need to try and figure out their intentions, because they made them pretty clear. When you learn about world history, and specifically Middle Eastern history from 1945-present, you get a better understanding and appreciation for Dr. Paul's foreign policy views. Without a strong backing in economics and fiscal policy (which admittedly is my weak point also, and I'm working to fix it), you understand why Paul is calling for a complete change to our government structure and tax system.

Without this education, you just get pulled into the rhetoric of candidates like Obama with his audacity of hope, and Huckabee with his "compassionate conservatism".

 

First, you have to believe there is a problem. And that's what many here do. In the absence of them, they create them, either fictitiously or by twisting history around to show how terrible their country is. By their own posting, one might conclude that every aspect of their lives are lived in hindsight.

This is exactly what Guerilla is doing. In fact, the more I point it out, the more he throws a fit of outrage and becomes careless with his lies and hatred towards America. Hopefully I will be able to better understand the mental deficiency that causes people to live in this ball of guilt complex.

What makes it even harder to understand is, he doesn't treat himself in the same manner. When he is wrong, he will defend it, he will argue it, he will deflect it, and stand up for himself, but he will never do the same for his country. In fact, he goes out of his way to agree with others who do the same, and take it to new levels.

Anyway, I should probably just let him get it out of his system again and maybe he'll drop back to only one or two posts a day about how bad America sucks. It seems the more I point out his hatred towards America, the worse he gets, and that just feeds those here who unequivocally and absolutely hate America. It's really a shame. People never take issue with that, but when they "perceive" another sort of hatred, suddenly there is a never ending supply of outrage. Know what I mean?

Oh, and I appreciate the opportunity where we can have, even if for a moment, a bit of understanding. I don't want you to think I didn't appreciate that you understand where I come from and I where you come from in our arguments. We are both passionate about our causes in much the same way.

 

You throw around the word "hate" pretty freely. Maybe it is because he loves his country so much and hates to see where it is headed with these wars in the middle-east? You can't equate hate with dissatisfaction with the current state of America. my three cents (inflation).

 

Wow, let's dissect this one.

Pretty wild stuff. GTech must have missed my post about what is good in America.

So much anger towards my views. Not rebuttal, not another perspective, just labels and stereotyping. It's sad, but for a lot of people, this is all they are capable of when confronted with rational, factual discussion.

 

Foreign policy gaffes plague Huckabee
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/28/huckabee.foreign.policy/index.html

ROTFLMAO

Tax Hike Mike, your candidate to stem the wave of Pakistani immigration!

Somebody has been hanging out with Chuck Norris too much.

MORE FEAR! MORE WAR!

 

Lol, i could not agree more.

 

That's all he has mate, his relies a lot on hyperbole and always will do.

 

Now you've done it.. Damnit! Leave Chuck out of this. I'm not joking!!!

 

Chuck and Mike will make you safe against Pakistanis swimming across the ocean with missile launchers on their shoulders.