Does God exist?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Dark Blade, Feb 8, 2007.

  1. w3bmaster

    w3bmaster Notable Member

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    #61
    I don't belive in God
     
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  2. arabSquad

    arabSquad Well-Known Member

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    #62
    i do :)

    god is allways there 4 us and he made us to obey him and do good :)
     
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    krakjoe Well-Known Member

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    #63
    That is a crazy thing to say, if I said and went around preaching that I was made by an entity that there was absolutely no proof of, I'm pretty sure I'd be locked up in a mental institution, unless of course, I said his name was God.
     
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    arabSquad Well-Known Member

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    #64
    well all of us muslims believe of what i just posted :)

    and many christians i kno believe the same :)
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #65
    Krakjoe interesting screen name , i wont touch it lol. Like i said god does exist and all evidence proves it. Your theory is that everything happened by chance. The big bang, before the big bang, and before that. Wow so you rtelling me it all happened by some random act of chance and your calling me a fool. My suggestion is pass that pipe to me dude, opps i dont do drugs which is why i dont see my existence as a random act of chance looooooooooooool. What a silllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy and illogical thought lol
     
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  6. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #66
    Krak joe you keep believing that we are here by rondom chance and yet you have even less proof of that. Hey joe when u say u love someone do your ganglions turn on to tell u that. pass the krack dude lol
     
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  7. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #67
    Arabsquad heck ya we do my friend.
    God bless krackjoe, from now on hes on my super duper prayer list
     
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  8. sam2698

    sam2698 Well-Known Member

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    #68
    Are you trying to say that there is a less proof of evolution than the creation story? :eek: And again what is the proof that God exists, there has been tons of tests and criticism and the evolutionary theory has withstood that, but the fact of the matter is you guys do not even have a sensible theory!
     
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    #69
    Here's where I think science fails:

    Premise1: If God does exist he is all powerful.

    Premise2: An all powerful God would have the means to remain unseen.

    Conclusion: God cannot be disproved.

    Which of course doesn't mean that God can be proved either.

    I personally don't think God exists but I also know I can't prove that.


    It's kinda like the Matrix. If we're in the matrix we wouldn't know it so how can we say that we're not in it right now.
     
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  10. krakjoe

    krakjoe Well-Known Member

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    #70
    That's rubbish,
    it's scientifically proovable that humans aren't made from some dust,
    its also proovable that the planet wasn't created in seven days,
    its also proovable that there is no heaven above the earth,
    nor hell below it,
    its also proovable that the universe we inhabitat is far older than 4000 years,
    it's also proovable that humans cannot live untill they are several hundred years old,
    it's also proovable that humans cannot get pregnant without first having sexual intercourse,
    all of these things are proovable, with real science that you can understand and see, for every piece of scientific evidence there is that discredits happenings in the bible all religion has is "that's the way god intended it", well that's pretty weak, especially when the facts are infront of your eyes.
     
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    #71
    I was referring to an all powerful being in general not a specific God hence I can agree with all your points except #1...We are all made of stars ;) And thats proovable.
     
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    krakjoe Well-Known Member

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    #72
    No, at this time it's a theory, not proovable at all.
     
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    #73
    Well IMHO it does... its the supreme power that is governing the whole world!!!
     
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    #74
    I believe in God but I don't think he's as good as people think he is.
    I don't like the way he runs things, if he is there.
     
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    Sam im saying evolution proovessssss the existence of god. I said it many times. This universe has laws(many laws) that we must obey. These laws could not have come about by chance dont u agree?
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #76
    Krakjoe here we go again. You are making the same mistake that most bible only christians make. The book of genesis and revelations cannot be interpreted litterally. If you read your bible history u will understand that these 2 parts of the bible were written conceptually. This has been debated many times in many christian forums.

    King of Kings, do you want god to just make everything perfect in the world?
    If he did what will we have learned? You have go to try to see things through the eyes of a greater purpose.

    I never knew how the homeless suffered, till i got out there and started sharing times with them and passing food out to them. I always wondered why i was always told that gods presence is even more concentrated with the poor then he is with us . Cause they have been thorugh many more trials and tribulations.

    In christian belief why didnt jesus come down to use on golden wings dressed in the best way? There is a lesson here people, try to think about this.
     
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    #77

    This is a contradiction...Does God exist, or not? I don't believe God is "running things"...God gave humans the ability to choose...so in a sense we can be blamed ourselves...we can't blame God for anything, except giving us the choice to make choices....
     
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    #78
    god is supposed to be PERFECT ( he is )

    he runs all the thing in the absolutely right way and the most perfect way

    god is not like us to make mistakes in running our lives

    everything he does no matter how bad it effects us ,, its in our benefit some how and some way

    * atleast .. thats what i believe in and that is what i think :)
     
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    Well you see now you have made a clear distinction that the creation story is not literal, but it has been referred to in the bible many time as being true, also how do you govern what is true and what is not, it seems that there are always part that are too superficial told to be not taken literally, so if that is the case and adam and eve are not real, then the God person is also just a story. And the bible is supposed to be the word of God, and is he some kind of prankster trying to make us figure out what should be taken literally and what shouldn't.

    My hypothesis is that, 2000 years ago, people were almost half stupid and barbaric, there needed a way to silently govern them and keep them in check and therefore the God theory came into existence, however now that the evolution of our standards of morality has increased there should be less of a problem.

    Evolution: Not really, just because evolution happened it does not mean that the supernatural was there, basically there was a lot of killing, survival of the fittest and a lot of extinctions that took place, kinda ironic for a perfect god, who created made instantly out of nothing, of course that is what humans would have suggested what might have happened 2000 years ago, along with the Earth was flat and everything revolved around it.

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    Next, if God is perfect and trying to teach us lessons why take the imperfect road, seems kind of ironic, and secondly I do not argue against the Christian morals, although many were right to keep the basic human needs safe, there were also many flaws, and I could cherry pick a few quotes from the bible to prove it but I hope you get the point.

    And that gets us to the second point, if the bible is the word of God why are there so many things wrong with it, seems that the perfect God is not that perfect after all. And the whole thing that the world is running perfect under the perfect God as suggested in the bible is utterly false all we have to do is to step out and just name them.

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    Of course, I am just agnostic, and given enough facts I might reconsider the God theory.
     
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    #80
    Jesus covered what is to be deemed to be taken literally and what isnt deemed to be taken literally when he spoke to peter. Go through it sometime and study what he meant by understanding the cultural times of how it was back then.
     
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