Does DMOZ reply or question when you submit your site?

Hi all,

I had no problem with submission of my sites to DMOZ about 3 years ago. It is easy to be listed. However, I submitted few others (6 months ago) and have no idea what is going on... and when it will be listed or... at least... an email refuse...?

Any comment on this matter?

Thanks

 

theres no way now you can check your submission status in dmoz, all i can say is that you submit and forget

 

Dmoz will not send any automated email when accepting or rejecting a submission. An individual editor might choose to do so, but it is rare.

'Submit and forget' is the best advice.

 

... DMOZ... is that the best directory?

 

Best for what?

That's a little like posting "Broccoli... is that the best vegetable?".

 

Sorry! I will make it clear... is that DMOZ is the directory that everone wants to submit their sites to??? So is it the best of directory?

Usually, once your site is listed, PR = 4 right after that?

 

It is the best known. I wouldn't call it the best.

Absolutely not. Not even close.

A listing in DMOZ is one more backlink. That's all. To determine approximately what value the link may add to the PR of your site (page), look at the PR of the page your site appears on in DMOZ. Then count the total number of outgoing links on that page, including navigation links. The value of PR passed to your page is approximately:

.85 * {PR of page containing your link}/{number of outgoing links}

 

There is the advantage with DMOZ though that once you're in you automatically get into the Google Directory and various others and you can get PR from there as well. If you get listed in a PR5 cat you can count on at least two PR4-5 links to your site.

 

No. From my observations, I don't believe those DMOZ clones provide any additional benefits in terms of PR any more, if they ever did. And even in the case of the Google Directory, which of course is just an occasionally updated DMOZ feed with PR bars added and which seems to be becoming progressively the poor neglected half-insane distant cousin of the Google family, where is the evidence this counts as an extra "vote" for a page?

 

I'd have been inclined to agree with you even as recently as about two months ago but have had some experiences with two of my sites that caused me to change my mind.

I still think there is no ranking advantage from the clones but it appears there is a (toolbar) PR gain both from the GD and the odd clone with decent PR. Logically, there's no reason why there shouldn't be... unless the links are nofollow/js/etc.

 

There may be a toolbar PR gain IF those clone pages have any PR at all - many don't. Even that is debatable and I think will be less and less true in the future. They are, after all, duplicate pages, and Google has a policy of ignoring duplicates.

 

Does the policy of ignoring duplicates apply to links passing PR? The "dup penalty" - so to speak - applied to duplicate content and was true from the POV of content. Google, however, does fully index all dup pages. I believe PR passes from those pages with no trouble. We'll have to agree to disagree on that

I have no problem accepting that most clones don't have any discernible PR on the toolbar. OTOH, if, as I suspect, Google passes PR from dup pages I wouldn't mind a few million links from those "PR0" clones

 

No they don't. That's what the duplicate filter means - only one of them gets indexed and the duplicates are ignored.

Why would that be true? That wouldn't make any sense at all. And Google doesn't usually do things that don't make any sense at all.

If it were true, the easiest way for me to boost PR for a page would be to link to it from another page with decent PR and then make 100 or 1000 copies of that page.

 

Well it seems to be more technical things are going on here.... I simply found that once your site accepted in DMOZ then it will automatically listed in many other directories - Minstrel: I think that you agree with me... therefore, your PR would be increased significantly.

I have a website that has PR prediction of PR4 - PR5 but it is still PR0 (please note that there are many sites link to it).

I also have 2 other sites listed in DMOZ and I didn't spent even a cent to promote but it got PR4 easily.

DMOZ doesnt do a good job on reviewing website... I dont think that Google should continue supporting DMOZ!

 

The &filter=0 gets you copies of the duplicates i.e. Google indexes them but does not show them in SERPs (usually) unless you hit the show omitted results button.

Nah, you want millions. And you want them from pages on sites not reliant on your own for the sum total of their PR.

That is surely a matter of opinion. Not everybody would agree with you there

 

No, I don't agree with you. You may get the DMOZ page you're listed on duplicated in a dozen or 100 other DMOZ clone pages just like it. That won't hurt you but it will not help you either.

Hint: Google's duplicate content filter.

PR prediction tools are notoriously inaccurate.

I haven't spent a cent to promote ANY site. Some are listed in DMOZ. Some aren't. Liosting in DMOZ is not the important determinant of how well they rank or even the PR of pages in the site.

Neither do I. Something we can agree on finally

 

I'll toast to that, too.

 

Minstrel: Thanks for sharing information

 

lorddomain, sure, you're welcome.

 

minstrel, a page showing PR0 isn't necessarily a PR0 page, it's probably a PR of between 0 and 1. It can therefore pass PR. In sufficient quantities ... I hear what Foggy is saying.