Does directory template influence google's bots?

Discussion in 'Directories' started by MOG, Jan 29, 2008.

  1. #1
    Hey folks,

    well, the question is: Does directory template influence google's bots?

    Now OBVIOUSLY the answer would be "yes" I know, but Im looking at very specific case studies here.

    Out of the 15 directories I launched at the beggining of this month (you can see the full list at THIS THREAD) I have done the following:

    1) had all 15 submitted to 600+ other directories
    2) added a link from 750 other websites I host on each page (around 5000 links and growing)
    3) advertised them here, and at iwebtool talk's forum.

    All of the domains are at least two years old, and I have noticed some startling differences.

    One theme in particular, (which has google adsense incorporated), has 2000+ pages indexed each on TWO directories, but the rest using OTHER templates have around 150 pages indexed on average.

    Is it possible that through "better design" of this template that google is indexing it much, MUCH quicker?

    That being the case I might just change the theme on the rest of them now to be the adsense enabled one!

    (also incidenly, just for the sake of stats, I have had nearly 18,000 submissions to the directories in total, which I think is a great amount for the first month, any feedback?)

    Thanks!


    MOG
     
    MOG, Jan 29, 2008 IP
  2. britishguy

    britishguy Prominent Member

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    #2
    Are all your submissions free ?

    ie Are they all free, or do you have some that are paid reviews?
     
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  3. MOG

    MOG Well-Known Member

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    #3
    All submissions are free, I have thought about doing paid and will do, when I get PR - for now all domains are just aged and have a PR0 or PR1.... when the time comes I will charge a few dollars for a premium listing.
     
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    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    Does directory template influence google's bots?

    In my opinion Yes to an extent...

    Ive used various templates from different coders and the best seo templates
    achieved faster indexing and higher results in the SEs on a general outlook.

    Actually it was some of an0ns templates that helped out a bit more ...
    or rather should i say templates that he created showed better results then
    others that where not so seo friendly...

    thx
    malcolm
     
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    acuman Active Member

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    That is awesome!
    Time to rock!
     
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    aspidov Well-Known Member

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    It's mostly because of Adsense. In order for Adsense to figure out what ads to show on your pages, they need to crawl the page first. hint hint ;)

    AND if your template/design is tableless and valid xhtml and css (or at least close to)... you have a better chance of being fully indexed.
     
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    dargre Peon

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    #7
    Of course,
    Wspecially whe you use "PINK" colors.
    Such template is much better visible and indexed :D :D
     
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  8. MOG

    MOG Well-Known Member

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    That would make perfect sense, after all, people have browsed to the 2000+ pages that are indexed on the ones with adsense, so no doubt that will have helped....

    thanks for the pointers, my next task is then to put adsense on another template and see if the rate at which the pages are indexed improves!

    MOG
     
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    enQuira Peon

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    adsense bots are separate from google index crawlers (googlebots).
     
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    Jaboora Banned

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    Where are you to be seeing this please?
     
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    CReed Prominent Member

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    #11
    Matt Cutts confirms AdSense media bot in natural search index

    ...there’s no boost at all in rankings if you’re in AdSense or Google News. You don’t get any more pages crawled either.

    This was from April 2006 so it may no longer be the case. ;)
     
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    aspidov Well-Known Member

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    Creed and mhamdi are both correct, but facts show completely otherwise.
     
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    Jaboora Banned

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    #13
    Facts are to be facts so to contradict both Creed an mhamdi they are wrong? I am to ask for template now so want to be knowing true answer if templates are to be interfering with google?
     
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    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    enQuira Peon

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    #17
    Yes that is absolutely right! The adsense bot has nothing to do with google's search index!


    Q) Does directory template influence google's bots?
    Yes it dose, as a unique template is also unique content and images! so it may help!
     
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  18. Jaboora

    Jaboora Banned

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    #18
    Where is to be evidence of Google to be taking into account images of templates for search method please? I am to have template made and for w3c validation as I am to believe this to count but for graphics no this is not to be true unless you are meaning adding alt= title= attributes which may be google do be reading?

    This is just from my learning and I am to be corrected if evidence is to be there.
     
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    #19
    yes the style of the template matters in ranking. The look of the template most certainly does not. You can have the prettiest website and have horrible coding, and one of the ugly websites with good codes in the back.

    Jaboora: Who cares about google evidence?

    You think if google want us to know wouldn't they have told us already. I mean just like if they want to tell us the pr update dates ... they would tell us those.

    I am certain you will not find a solid evidence from google that confirms anything.
     
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    I do be caring for Google to be saying if templates are to be affecting indexing, the strange thing is I would be to be giving more strenght to Google saying it than to young children who are thinking they are to know it all.

    Point of interest I was to ask developers corner for informations on this subject and am to be hoping they will give answer as you don't seem to have an idea just guesswork which is not good.
     
    Jaboora, Feb 1, 2008 IP