Does Article Marketing really work as well as some say?

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by sweetinquiry, Feb 6, 2008.

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    I have a friend that said I need to write articles pointing back to my site and submit them to article directories. Does this work? Wouldn't they be counted down for duplicate content and eventually banned?
     
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  2. computermonkey

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    Some people submit the same articles to tons of directories. I prefer to write original articles for each submission or at least rewrite them.
     
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  3. Perry Rose

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    Rarely. You would think so, but I'm afraid it is pretty much of a myth. For the most part, that is.

    I have yet to hear from or interview a Webmaster who can honestly say that it has worked.

    I have nver put much stock in it. Even when I first started out with advertising and marketing and not knowing diddly squat.

    Sweetinquiry, you first have to realize the reality of search engines, and then go form there.

    First. Everybody and their cousin is vying for page one, and not everybody can fit there. There are, literally, thousands! Look at a popualr product like Viagra, as an example. Tens of thousands have sites on this, and many know about SEO. Not all of them can be on page one. What are there, 11 spots on each page? There just isn't the room. It is, literally, the luck of the draw.

    Second. If you are lucky to land on page one, that doesn't mean you will make sales. I and plenty of experienced Webmasters know firsthand that just about all visitors coming in from search engines are looking for free stuff. They are tire kickers, window shoppers. It is also very hard to get targeted traffic, because many times the "description" in your html isn't all included.

    Third. There have been many sites that have ranked high, and the Webmasters didn't do anything in the way of SEO.

    Simply put...the search engine computers have no rhyme or reason to them.

    So, needless to say, search engine traffic is highly overrated.

    The only exception is if you have a blog, message board, or a content site like an online magazine, and you sell advertising space.

    With all of this in mind, I tell my readers to screw this thing called "duplicate content." It is absolutely ridiculous.

    On top of that, you can get thousands of targeted visitors from articles, duplicate or not, while you will only get a few of hundred from search engines. If that.

    The more content sites you submit to, the more visitors you get.

    So, why should you care if, IF Google does not index duplicate articles?

    With duplicate articles submited to many sites, I myself can get ten times more visitors than the average blowhard who exclaims that search engines are the way to go, and he was lucky enough to land on page one.

    Yeah, uh-huh.

    I'm not sure, but I think John Chow, a well-known blogger is still banned altogeter from Google, yet he still continues to make a lot of money.

    I could be wrong on this, but Jeremy, Shoemoney.com, another popular blogger, isn't listed under popular keywords, and he probably makes more money than Chow.

    There is more to all of this, but you get the gest of it all.

    Cover your ears... Fuck Google.

    You probably don't believe it, but that is indeed the reality of it all.

    Take that one article and submit them to as many sites as you can, and dont worry about it.
     
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  4. dairyman

    dairyman Notable Member

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    Article writing is one of the way to drive traffic to your site. I have 50 accepted articles in the ezine from where hardly I get 10 unique visitors a day. It helps to improve your PR since you are getting backlinks from them and make your site popular among the international visitors.
    Coming to your second question about duplicate content : No way there is a question of being banned because of submission to multiple article directories. If you are the original author or if you have the rights over the article, you can have your articles (same contents without any modification) published at many directories. That's all:)
     
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  5. smartfinds

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    Hi,

    I am not sure that I agree with Perry Rose entirely. There is some merit to the writings, but how about considering not getting traffic from the search engine? I realize that may sound like a wild notion, but I would advocate both article marketing and news release marketing as a way to drive traffic from locations other than the search engines. The distribution process alone and using social communities will help significantly.

    Oddly enough, the same process - at some point - will help your link popularity and search engine traffic will arrive too.

    We have quite a bit of success in the content marketing process with our client campaigns and we have historical reports that can show how link popularity and search engine ranking move together. Something we monitor weekly for our clients.
     
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    yes, it's a common practice to submit your articles to several directories. The best way here is to write your original article or better yet rehash them and enjoy writing!
     
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  7. redspace

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    don't worry too much about duplicate content on other people's sites. if there are duplicate content on your site like 2 or three pages seems like similar in content but just different in title and some keyword phrases then you should be worried about that. On other people's site there are no duplicate content penalty just filter. the benefit or article marketing showing expertise, gaining backlink and direct traffic. if any article page of yours got filter you still can get direct traffic. if you worry too much doing things online you will never take any action. you should only worry a bit when you want to spend some money.
     
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  8. Davinator

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    Quoting Perry Rose

    "Cover your ears... Fuck Google.

    You probably don't believe it, but that is indeed the reality of it all.

    Take that one article and submit them to as many sites as you can, and don't worry about it."



    Here, here! I love it and completely agree...!


    Cheers
    Davin
     
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  9. homebizbuilder

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    Article marketing works like gangbusters! But you need to know how to do it well. Pay attention to longtails, LSI, low competition moderate demand niches and keywords as well as keyword density. I teach about them in my report. This is how I managed to pull of 400,000 uniques in 2007 and making $10,000s in affiliate sales. Purely from article marketing, Zero PPC.

    So sorry Perry Rose, I beg to differ from your opinion. Then again, everyone is entitled to theirs.
     
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  10. Perry Rose

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    Your "report"? And it leads to a sales page later on? :)~

    Where may we see your site in Google and in the other engines?
     
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  11. sweetinquiry

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    Okay, well, anyone know TimG? I live in his community and just met him and his wife. He makes tons of money article marketing. I just need to get with him long enough to get the hole scoop.
     
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  12. Max Whitson

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    This is one of the best methods I know that gets really targeted traffic for free. Yes it does work and very well at that. I suggest you get in the wagon with other article marketers as it can be really rewarding.
     
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    homebizbuilder & Max Whitson are both right on track. Article marketing is the fastest and cheapest way in the world to get your offerings in front of targeted traffic, and when done correctly it's an unlimited income stream.

    The trick, as homebizbuilder touched upon, is to hit the most targeted traffic. Just chasing "longtails" isn't enough. That can lead to traffic, but not targeted traffic depending what you're after. You have to find the "right longtails" to maximize article marketing.

    Just for example, if I were using articles to promote my web site that sells "Red Plastic Widgets" I might find that the term 'widgets made from plastic' is a low competition and decent search volume phrase, but would people making that search be buyers? Absolutely not! They're information seekers, so if I want sales that's useless traffic for me. I wouldn't waste my time writing an article for that term.

    However, the term 'plastic widgets with free shipping' on the other hand would be far better to target because people making that search are in buying mode, so if I could just get my articles in front of them I've got an easy path to conversion. I'd write a dozen articles around a term like that, and submit all of them to every directory I could find.

    Duplicate content isn't something article marketers should worry about at all, unless you're publishing your articles on your own site too, and that's silly. Your site content should be about the product upsell, your article content should be about attention grabbing and leading visitors to your upsell pages. So article content and sales page content are 2 different animals that need to be approached in 2 different ways, you should never be posting your articles on your own site.

    I know everybody has their own opinions, but those who talk negatively about article marketing do so because they're missing the boat on how to do it correctly, not because it doesn't work.

    There are people making good money with article marketing, I know, and a lot of them hang out here at DP and give good tips all the time. Just pay attention to what you read here, and when something you read makes sense or seems logical try it and see if it helps you or not.
     
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    First of all, articlemarketer.com sucks itself. Terrible customer service, terrible service. You pay money and get zero support from their side. Just sucks, nothing else can describe their service. They have automatic soft that rejects you for almost everything, and when you submit a ticket you need to wait 2-3 business days to receive a message that "go back and try to submit again". I was trying to submit at least 3 times, but every time they had a different excuse and wanted me to go back until I simply gave up. A friend of mine who is a professional seo said, that it is good in fact that I didn't submit my article for many reasons. One of them - it simply doesn't work and this articlemarketer is a bullsh$t.
     
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    You'll probably get more traffic to your website with this forum posting than you will with an article. And it took less time to write this forum posting too. In my opinion, stick with forum and YouTube videos to get free traffic to your website. Spend more time usiing methods that bring the best results. You may also want to optimize your website with tons of good content to get what traffic you can from the search engines.
     
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  16. ScottBannon

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    gregdavidson, while you may be right that someone can possibly get more traffic from a forum post if it's on a popular forum, but can I just ask is "more traffic" or "good traffic" the goal?

    For most people, it's good traffic--and that's what article marketing is all about.

    Sure, I may write an article that only brings a few visitors per day, but they'll be highly targeted visitors and I'm sure I'll get more conversions from them then I would from 500 untargeted daily visitors.

    That's the difference on the traffic, it's quality over quantity. Then there's also the added SEO benefit of related backlinks in which you get control over the anchor text being used as well.
     
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    Well, you have to remember that the information you put in your signature and in your thread titles get indexed in the search engines. Put the term "Dave Espino Wholesale List" in Google and see what comes up #1? My thread on Webmaster-Talk of course!! If that's not targeted, I don't know what is. You can also see that people are bidding on that phrase that I have #1 for FREE!!
     
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    Ezines are supposed to be the best way, submitting articles to ezines as well as databases.


    If anyone is advertising on ezines, would you recommend any off this list? Or other ezines?


    Ezines:
    ezineseek.com
    ezinesearch.com
    e-zinez.com
    bestezines.com


    co-registration:
    myfree.com
    funezines.com
    internetfuel.com
    zmedia.com
    ezinecentral.com
    profitinfo.com
     
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    Yes absolutely article marketing works... Here is a small case study done on just how effective it can be when done properly http://www.thekaizenbusiness.com/?p=174
     
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    Article marketing does work to a certain extent, but submitting to article directories may not be the best way to do it. When you submit to a directory, they will generally have high PR than your site, and will draw the traffic to the article. You can put your website links into your "resource box" at the bottom of the article, but you'll be lucky to get 5% of people to actually link to your site. Then the article directory gets all the traffic and Adsense revenue from your work.

    If it's a good article, keep it on your own site and draw the organic traffic to it directly. You want the traffic on your site, not the ezine article site. If you publish on an article site and you answer the reader's question in your article, why would they click into your site? The only real benefit I see in publishing on article sites is getting a higher PR link to your site and the trickle of traffic it will provide.
     
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