Doctors Refuse to Fix Builder's Broken Ankle Unless He Quits Smoking

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...tml?in_article_id=481617&in_page_id=1770&ct=5


Yay for socialized/government health care!

 

I see their point but if it doesn't heal it's his fault for smoking.

 

If the op doesn't work the guy is looking at amputation.

 

Nothing stopping him going private if he wants to. Yay for having the choice!

 

I can understand it but still! seems kind of a wrong way about it

 

Fuck!!! Yes, when I had a dental problem with two gums forming an artificial gap soon after I took my braces off, the doc told me to quit smoking because they were continuously bleeding if I ate something like chicken which would get caught in between them.

Smoking increases your Cholesterol as well as Sugar levels in your blood. Mayb that's the reason. In any case, when I was a chain-smoker I had problems with my wounds healing.

A good article, a good message but is that the way a smoker is to be treated??????

 

Thats a lie, my late grandfather who was 77 when he died said "They called them coffin nails when my dad smoked, its bullshit that these people say there was no warning"

 

Do you even have health insurance? At one point I kind of remember you saying you didn't.

Which is sort of funny someone without health insurance being critical of socialized medicine.

 

No sir, I don't have health insurance. I'm also not a beggar and don't wish to leech of the government.
If I wanted to, I could go and signup for some free healthcare deal, but that's not the kind of person I am. That's no different that going to the welfare or food stamp office IMO. I realize this is hard for you to grasp, but try.

Also, I actually am getting my brain tumor taken care of now. I was sitting here about 4 weeks ago and figured why not go post an ad on craigslist to see if I can find a doctor.

Make a long story short, I posted an ad explaining my situation and offering my services to a doctor who would help me. After only two days, a doctor got ahold of me and we set a deal up.

I had to drive to the other side of Florida and pick up a big ass treadmill. pressure wash his house (very big), touch up the paint at his old house and help him move into his new home.
In exchange for this, I get an MRI and brain surgery. The original deal was just for an MRI, then he explained to me he talked to a couple of his friends and they wanted to offer me brain surgery. The tumor is non-cancerous, so I'm still thinking if I want to go ahead with the brain surgery or not. It's kind of a big risk to fix something that isn't deadly.

Point is, I don't need or want shitty government healthcare. I don't want the government sticking it's ugly nose in my business and telling me what to do. Healthcare isn't a right, it's a luxury. The government has no business giving out free healthcare. You think our country is broke now? Wait till every lowlife in America piles into the doctors offices to get their free healthcare.

 

of course if you were seriously injured without health insurance you would be another "leech" on society.

Did you just say you are trading some guy from craigslist, pressure washing his house for brain surgery?

Hell if you detail my boat I'll give brain surgery too, come on down

 

Uh, he's a doctor.
http://www.osswf.com/directions.htm

 

So, what you're basically saying is, you're unable to see the difference between someone who is unable to provide for himself and a lazy beggar?

There is nothing wrong with me physically, some would say I have severe mind issues, but that's another story. There is no reason why the government should have to provide me with anything for free.

Instead, let me work for it. Let me do pressure washing, pick-up and delivery services, and painting in exchange for what I want. At the end of the day, you feel better about yourself knowing you didn't ask for a handout. Perhaps in your world, everyone owes you something. In my world, nobody owes me shit and I'm not looking for a handout.

 

Where did you get the idea that it was free? Who do you think pays for it?

I think this is just another case of you assuming that if america does something it automatically has to be a better system than anyone elses, Even though america is the only developed western country (i use that phrase loosely) which doesn't have a government run health system and the option to go private if you want.

Look at what you guys pay for drugs. Over here we pay £6 for a prescription, No matter what it is and no matter how much of it we get. I guess it's all good while you aren't sick, But when you do become ill you will either be very quick to go "begging" for that "hand out" or you will be cursing the fact that you weren't paying in for socialised healthcare. but like i say, While you aren't ill it's easy to talk nonsense.

 

what you are unable to see is that without health insurance you are one serious accident or illness from becoming the "leeches" you hate

If you get serious injured who is going to pay your medical bills? You? One stay in the hospital can rack up 10, 20k worth of bills. If you are disabled even shortly you will have so much debt from cost of medical services, the odds of paying it off are slim to none.

 

I understand that. I'm not lashing out at people who have legit medical reasons in which they can't take care of themselves or hold a job. I'm lashing out at people who are simply too lazy or lack the will to care for themselves. Why should tax payers have to pay for someones helth because they're lazy, have a shitty job, have no money, or some other reason? What happen to personal responsibility?

 

You know why? Because the medical innovations come from our country. Everyone else lets us do the innovations and you sit back and reap the rewards. Don't speak to me about other western countries and their health care.

 

Really? I have known about my brain tumor for about two years now. I knew something was wrong up to 4 years ago but didn't think much of it. Finally I decided enough was enough and put out the money for an MRI. Turns out I had a tumor. I was supposed to get another MRI 6months later. But since I didn't have the cash to dump on another MRI, guess what I did?

I WAITED.
I didn't go to the shitty ass government with my hand out. I didn't go to some foodstamp health clinic to get my MRI, I waited a long time, almost a year after when I was supposed to get the MRI done.

 

Bollocks! Try Scotland, mate. That's where most revolutionary medical innovations are made.

 

Hmmm, about the same time you stared posting here...

Maybe if you get it removed, you might...how shall I say this...think a bit more clearly

 

You are right, that is so much better than getting medical treatment as soon as you need it...

Guess what i would do. I'd go to the hospital tomorrow and get it done straight away. And i wouldn't have to hand over a penny because of all the small contributions i make each week.

But you are right, Your way is better. getting brain tumors fixed isn't important. the important thing is that you waited, While it grew and spread, Until you had saved up enough money to go for the second scan.

can't you see how none of what you say supports the idea that your system is better?