Doctor in Gaza: Hamas lying about number of dead

Here's a translated version of the Italian newspaper: Click here

And here's the original Italian version: Click here

Even if they didn't lie about the numbers (And I do think a lot were hurt), this article shows you exactly how sick Hamas is. They're telling civilians to let them shoot from buildings "Because they'll die and go to heaven". Luckily, some civilians started organizing and shutting Hamas away from them. Maybe this is the start of the revolution everyone's hoping for.

I have to say Google translation kinda sucks... same website, main page, regarding Barack's second oath of office: "And after Barack
the duck repeated the oath", lol.

 

The health ministry which is controled by Hamas, said that the final toll is 1,324 dead and 5,400 wounded
Palestinian center for human rights final toll was 1284 dead and about 4,336 injured.

both worked separately from the other, the article you posted says there are doubts, so nothing confirmed yet, the best way to confirm is to allow investigations by independent parties, which for some reason, and from past experience, the illegal state of Israel try to avoid,

same in Jenin 2002, Israel also throw doubts on the final toll, Palestinians were demanding to allow an international investigation to reveal the truth, UN issued a resolution to send invesitgation team to Jenin, but Israel put all delays and obstacles for the team, until they denied access to it at the end,

so doubts and suspicions should be pointed on the side who does not allow foreign reporters or even UN investigation teams, which is the illegal state of Israel in this case, if they do not have anything to hide, they should be the first to demand such investigations.

 

It is an Italian news correspondent not Israel.

I think Hamas are a bunch of sic cowards.

 

The final deaths amount in Jenin 2002 is 54. 45 of them are terrorists. This was confirmed by the UN. You and your terrorists friends lie and lie and lie all the time... Only fools buys your cheap propaganda.

About the topic - I think the big think is that finally the citizens of gaza are not afraid to talk. Finally they confessed that Hamas using them as human shields and make their houses, schools and hospitals into battlefields - In this case there are two options:
1. IDF will respond the fire as necessary - Hamas is happy: "Israel killed babies,woman,children!! Israel do war crimes!!!".
2. IDF won't respond due to the uninvolved people in the area - Hamas is very happy too, he has a perfect shield.

 

how can it be confirmed by UN when the UN investigation team was denied access?

of course in every war there are propaganda from both sides, doubts, different opinions about the toll, there are signs that the illegal state of Israel tried to hide facts and this started since before the aggression start on Gaza when they disallowed foreign reporters, so they can later say Hamas/Palestinians, wrong numbers..etc

another sign when they hit media buildings in Gaza which resulted in evacuating some news agencies offices there, they again lied and said "the human shield" false claim, but Reuters and other news agencies who been in these buildings did not report any gunmen or rockets launching from these locations,

if they have nothing to hide, they would cooperate with investigation teams, and allow independent foreign journalists, and stop terrorizing the journalists who managed to get into Gaza strip, the act of disallowing them can prove in enough way that the terrorists in Israel have something to hide, which is always, the truth.

 

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002-08-01-unreport-jenin_x.htm

 

your effort (read desperation) to find a useless link from some unknown italian newspaper is appreciated

I wonder why you consider quoting it when isreal had itself barred any foreign media from traveling to Gaza

//OK I get it , this news was favouring you so it must be correct , however anything printed againt isreal is wrong

 

Not really, but I don't trust the murdering terrorists.

 

you don't trust anyone that disagrees with ISRAEL for example the UN

 

neither do I

so according to you anything printed against isreal is representing terrorists but anything for isreal is independent media ?

 

The UN is pretty much a joke, but I am sure they will eventually confirm that the numbers were exaggerated.

Anyways, if only 1300 died I think that is pretty good considering Hamas would be more than happy to sacrifice 10,000 or 100,000 for their cause.

No, but I think the numbers Israel releases are more likely to be closer to the truth.

 

I do not support Hamas

I support the freedom of Palestinian people and the return of all of their rights that had been grabbed since 1945

 

"......... if only 1,300 died I think that is pretty goood ............ "

Now we all know what kind of person you are.

No need to waste time with you....


In regards to the Italian newspapers and the death numbers, you should beleive nobody but Tel Aviv and the former US failure - president.

 

Yes, I can see through your enlighted mind, rest of the world, the UN, the relief organizations, media outlets, world Govt's are wrong

Its only isreal which gets some sacred revelations from God about the number of innocent people it killed , so it must be right

 

Yes, use my words out of context, that shows how weak your argument really is.

 

If you use your mind a little a bit you will get to the same conclusion.
Gaza is one of the most crowded places in the world. thousands of people on every square kilometer. Hamas and the other shitty-animals-terrorists are using the civilians as a shield anytime they can. They dig tunnels and planting bombs in and under their homes, under schools, under hospitals. They fire rockets from those places too. When they want to move from some place to another safely, they take a bunch of children with them. Those creatures don't deserve the adjective "animals". I think monsters is fit better.

 

It is just amazing to me that people don't add together what information is freely available about Hamas. They are a terrorist group that admits they want to destroy and Israel is a flourishing example of democracy.

I agree it is sad when any civilians die but Hamas is the one that puts their own people in harms way. My guess is that the people of Palestinian will eventually realize that peace and their own state is better than dying for corrupt terrorists.

 

this did not answer my question, how can it be confirmed by UN when UN investigation team was denied access? to confirm it means, to visit, make interviews, check the damage...etc without this, how can UN confirm?

here is the UN report mentioned in the news article you posted:

http://www.un.org/peace/jenin/

if the terrorist Israel had nothing to hide, they would have allowed access for the fact-finding mission, but they did not, to hide the true death toll, and also to hide their war crimes, which been reported by other independent organizations whom actually visited there:

source

 

Coming from a liar like you it is meaningless. Do you care to back up your statements on the other thread? Your integrity and honesty are worth shit on this forum due to your repeated telling of lies.

 

"the doctor in Gaza":

what a reliable source

source