Do you use a Web Design Program for your Web Page Design?

Discussion in 'HTML & Website Design' started by pcdoctor, Feb 13, 2007.

  1. nwk

    nwk Well-Known Member

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    #21
    Yes you can view the codes and edit in Dreamweaver itself. But you have got to understand the codes. And by Dreamweaver, I meant the WYSIWYG feature of Dreamweaver.:)
     
    nwk, Feb 18, 2007 IP
  2. ichigo

    ichigo Well-Known Member

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    #22
    i use dreamwever, crimson editor together with xampp to edit and test codes in local machine before uploading ;)
     
    ichigo, Feb 18, 2007 IP
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    ajsa52 Well-Known Member

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    #23
    I use crimson editor too, to hand code HTML, CSS, javascript, ... and the most important: scripts on server.
     
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  4. the_pm

    the_pm Peon

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    #24
    Two reasons: speed and quality control.

    Speed is subjective, and its subjectivity has a lot to do with the individual using the software. I won't use Dreamweaver because it slows me down. I code much faster and much more accurately using a tool like Homesite (which is also a Macromedia/Adobe product, and is the basis for DW code view) than using a WYSIWYG editor.

    A WYSIWYG editor would be faster if quality wasn't an issue, but Dreamweaver spits out some pretty flawed and incomplete markup by highest professional standards, and it is actually one of the better programs available (others put out even worse markup). I don't have time to spend fixing Dreamweaver's mistakes when I could be coding things properly the first time, and faster.

    If you want a text editor, get a nice text editor. If you want WYSIWYG, get the program of your choice, but at least understand what you're getting into.
     
    the_pm, Feb 19, 2007 IP
  5. Deano

    Deano Sail away with me.

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    #25
    Ah Homesite, that's what I learnt on, nice program, does it still come bundled with macromedia suite? I used to argue it's advantages over hot metal.

    No, the point I'm trying to make is that I can't understand why anyone would want to write everything out in notepad. Like I say I do things in split view, normally making use of the predictive code so it's very quick, buthaving the advantage of being able to see straight away what things look like.
     
    Deano, Feb 19, 2007 IP
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    leo.b Peon

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    #26
    I was trying out various CMS's last day. One of the simplest was http://www.eazyportal.com/. It's easy to install and maintain, has a navigation in a left aligned block, forum, news (news categories) and static content.

    Try it out.
     
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  7. Liam_Sas

    Liam_Sas Peon

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    #27
    dreamweaver is by far the greatest program for coding html imo.
     
    Liam_Sas, Feb 19, 2007 IP
  8. kk5st

    kk5st Prominent Member

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    #28
    Notepad! That is not even a kindergarten level editor. There is no way to be productive in that PoS.

    A good editor will allow you to code a document as fast as you can enter the content. It will allow as many files open simultaneously as you want. It will allow you to test scripts, to manipulate directories, to run ftp, ssh, cvs, or any other shell application, all from within the editor. It will allow multiple items on the clipboard, mine defaults to 60, but you can configure for more or less.

    That's not to say DW isn't an OK editor, especially if you're already comfortable using it. It does offer many of the features I would expect, including a decent set of site manipulation tools. But, DW offers nothing over a good text editor, unless you think paying a lot of money is a Good Thing®.

    cheers,

    gary
     
    kk5st, Feb 19, 2007 IP
  9. Deano

    Deano Sail away with me.

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    #29
    LOL, the joys of having an educational licence :)
     
    Deano, Feb 19, 2007 IP
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    #30
    Like most things, you get what you pay for :)

    I think it needs to be understood that Dreamweaver and similar software are merely web development tools. They are NOT design tools in and of themselves. There are two important components to a succesful site: design and infrastructure. Good, efficient, and user-friendly websites are strong in both areas.
     
    chaka42, Feb 19, 2007 IP
  11. Bjam

    Bjam Well-Known Member

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    #31
    You can always design your webpage in photoshop and use the slice tool!
     
    Bjam, Feb 19, 2007 IP
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    #32
    Notepad, this way you learn to avoid common mistakes and helps to learn html and scripting.
     
    ernicdev, Feb 20, 2007 IP
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    #33
    software isnt like most things, firefox rules.
     
    praetorian guardian, Mar 2, 2007 IP
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    #34
    check my design [​IMG]
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #35
    For my personal web site, I use the Sitezen that comes with the controlpanel, it is an online web design program that has already a lot of templates, basically just need to choose the template you want and modify it online. I would say it is fool proof and WYSIWYG.
     
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  16. BANAGO

    BANAGO Active Member

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    #36
    HTMLKit for windows and Bluefish for Ubuntu.
     
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    #37
    Hahahah, so true! Dreamweaver is tons better than Frontpage.
     
    xarch, Jun 4, 2008 IP
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    Waizujin Peon

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    #38
    Ahh, I remember front page. I used it when I was eleven and still oblivous to what HTML really was.
    I tried dreamweaver, HATED IT. I code from scratch using a program called Notepad++.

    I would suggest dreamweaver though, or if you are interested I might be able to offer my assistance and create you a website for free. Just message me if you are interested.

    -Ryu
     
    Waizujin, Jun 4, 2008 IP
  19. HDaddy

    HDaddy Active Member

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    #39
    PS for design and notepad++ for coding
     
    HDaddy, Jun 4, 2008 IP