Do you think muslims are really terorrists?

most welcome though I am not sure for what you were thanking me, for me Quran is the source of truth this is correct for you its not, and I m not arguing about this, each can be read and readers can decide for themselves, but I was asking, the holy spirit is the source of what? because you said that holy spirit is the source.

edited,: sorry thought you were talking to me, still my question is valid, source of what?

 

The fact that Surah exist that have opposite intent and meanings should be noted so one can discern the validity of each Surah. If one is quoting from the Mecca Quran and there is a contradicting Surah in the Medina Quran, then the quote is no longer valid. Where much of the rituals come from the Mecca Quran along with the calls for tolerance and peace, the more exclusionary and violence condoning Surah in the Medina Quran negate the peaceful intention of the Surah from the earlier Mecca writings. This is why one must be careful when accepting as fact anybody’s quoting of the Surah of the Quran.

Perhaps some day a scholar will write a version of the Quran with the Surah in chronological order with footnotes to denote which Surah have been superceded by later Surah. Until then we are left to research these discrepancies ourselves. Not an easy task, but a necessary one if we are to understand Islam and Muslims.

By the way, a Muslim admitted the contradictions as seen above.

like this ...

Chronological Order(first) Surah Name(second) Number of Verses(third) Location of Revelation(fourth) Traditional Order (fifth)
1 Alaq 19 Mecca 96
2 Qalam 52 Mecca 68
3 Muzammil 20 Mecca 73
4 Mudathir 56 Mecca 74
5 Fatehah 7 Mecca 1
6 Masad 5 Mecca 111
7 Takwir 29 Mecca 81
8 A'la 19 Mecca 87
9 Leyl 21 Mecca 92
10 Fajr 30 Mecca 89
11 Dhuha 11 Mecca 93
12 Sharh 8 Mecca 94
13 Asr 3 Mecca 103
14 Aadiyat 11 Mecca 100
15 Kauthar 3 Mecca 108
16 Takathur 8 Mecca 102
17 Ma'un 7 Mecca 107
18 Kafirun 6 Mecca 109
19 Fil 5 Mecca 105
20 Falaq 5 Mecca 113
21 Nas 6 Mecca 114
22 Ikhlas 4 Mecca 112
23 Najm 62 Mecca 53
24 Abasa 42 Mecca 80
25 Qadr 5 Mecca 97
26 Shams 15 Mecca 91
27 Bhruj 22 Mecca 85
28 T'in 8 Mecca 95
29 Qureysh 4 Mecca 106
30 Qariah 11 Mecca 101
31 Qiyamah 40 Mecca 75
32 Humazah 9 Mecca 104
33 Mursalat 50 Mecca 77
34 Q'af 45 Mecca 50
35 Balad 20 Mecca 90
36 Tariq 17 Mecca 86
37 Qamr 55 Mecca 54
38 Sad 88 Mecca 38
39 A'Raf 206 Mecca 7
40 J'nn 28 Mecca 72
41 Ya'sin 83 Mecca 36
42 Farqan 77 Mecca 25
43 Fatir 45 Mecca 35
44 Maryam 98 Mecca 19
45 Ta Ha 135 Mecca 20
46 Waqiah 96 Mecca 56
47 Shuara 226 Mecca 26
48 Naml 93 Mecca 27
49 Qasas 88 Mecca 28
50 Israa 111 Mecca 17
51 Yunus 109 Mecca 10
52 Hud 123 Mecca 11
53 Yousuf 111 Mecca 12
54 Hijr 99 Mecca 15
55 Ana'm 165 Mecca 6
56 Saffat 182 Mecca 37
57 Luqman 34 Mecca 31
58 Saba 54 Mecca 34
59 Zamar 75 Mecca 39
60 Ghafer 85 Mecca 40
61 Fazilat 54 Mecca 41
62 Shura 53 Mecca 42
63 Zukhruf 89 Mecca 43
64 Dukhan 59 Mecca 44
65 Jathiyah 37 Mecca 45
66 Ahqaf 35 Mecca 46
67 Dhariyat 60 Mecca 51
68 Ghashiya 26 Mecca 88
69 Kahf 110 Mecca 18
70 Nahl 128 Mecca 16
71 Noah 28 Mecca 71
72 Ibhrahim 52 Mecca 14
73 Anbiya 112 Mecca 21
74 Muminun 118 Mecca 23
75 Sajdah 30 Mecca 32
76 Tur 49 Mecca 52
77 Mulk 30 Mecca 67
78 Haqqah 52 Mecca 69
79 Maarij 44 Mecca 70
80 Naba 40 Mecca 78
81 Naziat 46 Mecca 79
82 Infitar 19 Mecca 82
83 Inshiqaq 25 Mecca 84
84 Rum 60 Mecca 30
85 Ankabut 69 Mecca 29
86 Motafefin 36 Mecca 83
87 Baqarah 286 Medina 2
88 Anfal 75 Medina 8
89 Imran 200 Medina 3
90 Ahzab 73 Medina 33
91 Mumtahana 13 Medina 60
92 Nisa 176 Medina 4
93 Zilzaleh 8 Medina 99
94 Hadid 29 Medina 57
95 Muhammad 38 Medina 47
96 Ra'd 43 Medina 13
97 Rahman 78 Medina 55
98 Ensan 31 Medina 76
99 Talaq 12 Medina 65
100 Beyinnah 8 Medina 98
101 Hashr 24 Medina 59
102 Nur 64 Medina 24
103 Hajj 78 Medina 22
104 Munafiqun 11 Medina 63
105 Mujadila 22 Medina 58
106 Hujurat 18 Medina 49
107 Tahrim 12 Medina 66
108 Taghabun 18 Medina 64
109 Saff 14 Medina 61
110 Jumah 11 Medina 62
111 Fath 29 Medina 48
112 Maidah 120 Medina 5
113 Taubah 129 Medina 9
114 Nasr 3 Medina 110

Why this mixed up???

 

What the hell are you talking about?! There is only one Quran.

 

The version you read and/or study is a combined form of the medina and mecca version of the Quran and terribly mixed up, without order.

Was that indented by arch angel Gabriel and Mohammad? At least they made 24 revisions altogether.

 

The importance here is that Muhammad ruled that if a later Surah contradicted a previous Surah, then the most recent and newer Surah was the true word of Allah.

EVEN MOHAMMAD KNEW ABOUT THE CONTRADICTIONS OF VARIOUS VERSIONS.

 

Dude you are confusing two cities with the versions of Quran.

Makkah and Madina are the two cities. Prophet Muhammad lived first 53 years of his live in Makkah. Revealation of Quran started when he was 40. So the Chapters revealed during his life spent in the city of Makkah are marked as Makki. When he was 53, Prophet Muhammad migrated to the city of Madinah which is 400 miles away in north. He spent the last 10 years of his life in Madinah. Surah's or chapters which were revealed during his time in Madinah were marked as Madni Suraahs. Makki or Madni is just to distinguish the city of revealation. Its not version. And no there is no contradictions in Quran. You may think of some verses as contradicting but some orders requires specific conditions before they get imposed. You have to go through context, you can't just single out the words 'kill infedel'.

And i'm 100% sure that you haven't read Quran. You might have readed some translation of Quran by some guy maybe but not the actual Quran which is in Arabic. Any book that says Quran in the title is any language other than Arabic, is not Quran, its just a translation of Quran by some guy. Thats why there is no version of Quran. Translation of Quran is not equals to Quran.

 

When there are no different versions then why can it be that Surahs contradict? eh? He didn't migrate. He had to run away. And why was it necessary to make 24 revisions with Gabriel? Very manipulative, or God was just soooo confused, eh? Why did he get more and more violent? with unknown terror until revived by qaida again?

 

You making a lot of noise.. Give us links to "other version of Quran " you have

 

Search my friend, search. Only what you find out yourself is what you will believe.

Funny, of decorating the religion with the name "Gabriel" as mentor too. Where else can you find a holy scripture name in the Quran working with Mohammad? - Nowhere.

And here we go again, Arabic language is necessary to understand. (from another poster above) - Knowing from my native Arab friends that the whole thing was written rather in a strange Arabic slang, or at least with so many mistakes that it is nearly impossible to understand fully. That what we see are interpretations of unclear Arabic expressions in language and nothing else. But that doesn't make the Quran true either.

 

again useless words for researching. keep it like this Arnie

 

Why don't you just type it in google dude? Haven't you heard of the guy in Afghanistan that is facing the death penalty for downloading a version of the koran that views females as equals lol. Get off your ass and look it up.

 

The last hint

The first version of the quran is also known as the first constitution.

The rest as supper said before

 

Why can't you provide links? Is it because these other versions don't exist?

 

actually the guy in Afghanistan is facing death penalty for downloading from a Farsi web site a text that was critical of koran.

http://www.thefounder.co.uk/article.php?articleid=105

may be you should take your own advice: "Get off your ass and look it up." before posting.
must be nice to be always WRONG.

 

Thanks for showing us it was even more absurd than claimed and how violent some sects of Islam are to any criticism. Your posting this was like ThraXed bragging how Iran does not kill their gays but pays for their gender surgery - as though either makes those Islamic nations appears rational or civilized.

 

Nice logic. Whatever Afghanistan does, Islam does. LOGICAL FALLACY.

 

There are people from every country of the word that commit violent acts, even the United States. Some Americans just need a scapegoat for their problems. Unfortunately, a few Muslims have put a bit of a blemish on their reputation as a whole.

 

Learn to read. I clearly attributed this act to some in Islam. It is you who is making the false connection to all of Islam.

People are smart enough not to keep buying the notion that every bad incident committed by a Muslim in the name is Islam was by someone misreading the Koran. At some point, Islam has to acknowledge that there are large portions of its followers who hold these disturbing views - and act on them.

 

I don't think all muslims are terrorists, but I do think there are muslim terrorists.

In general to the OP question "NO".

 

i agree with this statement.