Do you think muslims are really terorrists?

I'm sorry but you are full of crap.

- The Mollucan war ended as the news say in 2002, so how the war is looming now?
- The news about Ahmadiyah which is a sect in Islam but doesn't follow islam exactly. Wright or wrong, was banned by the government. Ahmadiyah is not moderate islam.
- The FPI as the news also say "The Indonesian police have finally acted to put a stop to the FPI", which mean no more fundamentals, again how is the war looming now?

Moderate islam by my definition are people who follow logic then the book. There are plenty of them here but Ahmadiyah is not one of them. And they dont lack any freedom anymore than their countryman, thats just third world country, not religion.

No freedom of any kind? youre just being a drama queen. Is myanmar a moslem country?

 

Hi Arnie,

I am a Muslim and I do my best to follow Quran letter by letter

there is only one Quran not two Qurans, I think you meant there is Quran and Hadith, not two Qurans,

you say Mohammad disobeyed God, from reading about his life, how can he disobey God when its in the Quran which as Mohammad and Muslims know is the word of God? do you mean that he should follow bible?

 

Not all Muslims not terrorists, however, not all of the non muslims openly oppose terrorists. Many of them clandestinely support terror network by way of moral and monetary support.

But I appreciate thread and appreciate the muslim brothers who want peace and have come out against the terror network.

 

"Muslim are terrorist" or "terrorist is a muslim" created by media and Hollywood movies . Hollywood movies used to use an arab or muslim in a role of a terrorist and bad guy.

 

Maybe you're not supposed to know because of your imams, there are definitely two Quran.

First, the quran of Mecca
Second, the Quran of Medina

Both by the same authors with quite some big alterations made. The first version is 97% carnal minded whereas the second version is around 67% carnal minded and the rest spiritual minded.

Has God changed his mind within a couple of years only?

 

there is one Quran, some of its Sura's been revealed in Mecca and some been revealed in Madina,

you have not answered my question, in which way you base your opinion that Mohammad disobeyed God, which teachings did he disobey?

 

LET COMMON SENSE PREVAIL. DO YOU THINK GOD LIKE THIS? I COULD HERE BRING MORE THAN 1000 PAGES OF WRONGDOINGS AGAINST GOD'S WILL.

THERE ARE 2 VERSION OF QURAN AND NO ADDITIONS MADE. EVERYTHING GOT ALTERED.

the raid on the mustaliq tribe
I725 When Mohammed heard that the Arab tribe, the Mustaliq, were
opposed to him and were gathering against him, he set out with his army
to attack them. He contacted them at a watering hole and combat started.
Islam was victorious and the Mustaliq and their women, children, and
goods were taken as spoils of war and distributed to the fighters.
I729 The captives of the tribe of Mustaliq were parceled out as spoils.
There was a ransom price set upon their heads. If the ransom were not
paid then the people were treated as spoils and slaves. Now one of them
was a beautiful woman with a high price on her. She came to Mohammed
and asked him to see if the price could be reduced. Mohammed had a better
idea. He would pay the ransom for the beautiful woman and she would
become his wife. Now in spite of the fact that she was already married,
. Margin note 725 of Ishaq’s Sira Rasul Allah.

there was no problem. It was a deal. Mohammed paid the ransom and the
beautiful woman became wife number seven.
I729 This marriage had a side effect. The captives were now related to
Mohammed’s wife. They were all released without ransom.
the death of a poetess
I996 There was a poetess who wrote a poem against Islam. Mohammed
said, “Who will rid me of Marwan’s daughter?” One of his followers heard
him and on that very night he went to the woman’s home and killed her.
M239 The assassin was able to do the work in the dark as the woman
slept. Her other children lay in the room, but her babe lay on her breast.
The stealthy assassin removed the child and drove the knife into her with
such force that he pined her to the bed.
I996 In the morning he went to Mohammed and told him. Mohammed
said, “You have helped Allah and his Apostle.” When asked about the consequences,
Mohammed said, “Two goats won’t butt their heads together
over this.”
M239 Mohammed turned to the people in the mosque, he said, “If you
wish to see a man who has assisted Allah and his Prophet, look here.”
Omar cried, “What, the blind Omeir!” “No,” said Mohammed, “call him
Omeir the Seeing.”
I996 The poetess had five sons and the assassin went to them and said,
“I killed Bint Marwan, Oh sons. Withstand me if you can; don’t keep me
waiting.” Islam became powerful that day and many became Muslims
when they saw the power of Islam.

 

In my part of the US, alot of my neighbors mistakenly believe all Muslims are terrorists or have ties to terrorism. I'd don't think that's the case with the majority of Americans tho, or at least I'd certainly hope not! Terrorism exists in many forms and isn't limited to any one religion (or religion at all in most cases).

 

I would appreciate it if you included your source, but I m still confused, you said he disobeyed God and I m not sure this is based on what? is it based on Bible, or on Quran but you believe Quran was changed? or its based on the Sura's that been revealed in Madina ( or on a certain version of Quran as you like to say?)

in other words, according to which reference he disobeyed God? by going against Quran, or Bible or common sense?

 

Nop Muslim are not terrorist it's 100% propaganda Suppose
if You caught any criminal Activity only you & you & police caught you not your religion & country are criminal not your country your religion your nation are Criminal. it's right or wrong if alqaeda attack WTC only alqaeda are terrorist not all muslims. if any one say all muslims are terrorist who are kidding with u or it's nice joke

 

The Holy Spirit is the source which is a free gift for whoever wants to obtain it, not depending to a religious group or background. But ooh yes, I have obtained that gift through Jesus Christ and it works, but not religiously. Jesus, in fact, condemned religions and lifted the personal relationship to God through him as the utmost priority.

Read both versions and compare them, then you will find out. Nobody can do that for you. Even the famous high scholars in Egypt have nothing to go against these facts.

 

Ah right, you are one of them hardcore Christian types. No wonder you're so hostile towards Islam. Did you know Muhammed is in the bible?

 

I am a muslim. There is only one Quran. There are not any other versions of Quran

 

I have no doubts that you read just one of the two versions. Would be a bit too confusing to have all this contradictions for the rest of a lifetime, wouldn't it?

But when you search for the truth you WILL find out.

 

sorry, each post you make makes it even less clear for me, Jesus condemned religion?

makes me wonder what does the word religion mean for you, but let me try to understand a bit here,

so Mohammad disobeyed Jesus whom you think he is God? or Mohammad disobeyed God by not obtaining the gift which you said is the source, here I have to ask, source for what?

I have read the whole Quran many times btw.

 

Help to make that "search"

 

Terroists such as Alqaeda should start their own religion and stop giving Muslims a bad name.

Islam clearly states that killing innocent people is wrong!

 

Thank you! What's your source of truth? I mean, how can you say that what the Quran teaches is the truth? What is your source?

There is something mentioned in the BIBLE where it says and "behold they will come and say peace but mean war".

 

http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_index.html

http://www.55a.net/firas/english/

 

I doubt , if Arnie will open those links, and read them.