Do you think clickbank shave ?

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by vstard, Feb 28, 2009.

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    Do you think clickbank shave ?

    I know many networks that sells more ethical products than clickbank does, and they shave, do you think clickbank shave commissions from us affiliates ?

    What's ur thought ?
     
    vstard, Feb 28, 2009 IP
  2. vstard

    vstard Guest

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    My sales are down, from my experiance, I should be getting more sales, I don't trust clickbank. Are your sales down too or do you have feelings that clickbank is doing something and taking your money ?
     
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  3. vstard

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    After I ask this question, I get 2-3 sales, isn't this weird, ya, my mind is flying high.
     
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    vstard Guest

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    seems like no one is here anymore, dp is loosing the market share of clickbank section on the webmaster forum.I can only see advertisers and clickbank employees on here, time to go.
     
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    ryanman Active Member

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    The best way to find out would be to use your own affiliate link and buy something.
     
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  6. vstard

    vstard Guest

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    I have tried that and the sale does show up but you never know, they could hire 10 people checking and trying to shave sales if they feel it can be shave.Who knows, you could be a clickbank employee, I don't trust anybody.

    I know you are not but I just don't trust them.

    @Clickbank, if you want to survive, you got to build some trust.How many times the tracking doesn't work.Money can do anything and you have lot of them.You have show that you don't care.Even if your tracking now is 100% good but you have alredy loose the trust, and I know, you still don't care.Let's see what I can do, probably stop promoting and move to other networks.
     
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  7. ziplok

    ziplok Peon

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    Geez don't start scaring me! I just got back into clickbank after being away for awhile. One thing I always liked about them is that they have so many products, and few restrictions. However after being away for months I noticed that they are taking out 1.00 per period as some kind of surcharge?

    Has anyone noticed this?
     
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  8. ActiveFrost

    ActiveFrost Notable Member

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    Definitely no ! Yeah, someone can steal your sales - that's true .. but CB by itself is not shaving them.
     
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  9. rikat

    rikat Well-Known Member

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    NO... Cb doesn't shave ... they may have problems from time to time (mostly sql) which is why the hop data looks funky sometimes, but they do not process transactions on their behalf and not credit you for them.
     
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  10. TigerPublishing

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    Shaving/scrubbing is done because CPA offers are designed to collect user data (such as email address, ZIP codes and mobile numbers). Those offers are shaved/scrubbed to remove bad, duplicate or invalid data which comes from sources which are known to be no good, spammers, automated submission programs, and so on. If the data is of no value to the advertiser running the offer, it is not credited as a referral and so the affiliate gets no payout.

    CB on the other hand, is processing *sales*. There is no "bad" data in sales. A sale is a sale. Shaving sales off would be tantamount to theft, and there's absolutely no way that's happening. Refunds and chargebacks are just part of processing payments on the Internet, and are nothing to do with shaving/scrubbing.
     
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  11. vstard

    vstard Guest

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    I'm not afraid of other people stealing my sales, I know how to protect my sales.Didn't you hear about tracking problems, cb system blocking etc. etc. etc.

    I have seen it, I was getting 100/day and then no single sale for whole month, I have seen problems like this many times, there must be some tracking problem (as they call to cover their sneaky stealing), I can't say if they are stealing, but I just feel it, anyone else feeling, I wish they just u know come out and comfirm us that their system, tracking are working fine and they don't shave.But who knows, I don't know, I'm a very suspicious man, especially after successful business people.But how can they take your money and say its tracking problem, they must fix it if there is tracking problem, and its not that hard, I do part time programming and I know it doesn't take anything to fix it, they just fucking don't care or they are stealing and say, (I'm sorry friends, we are getting really lazy to fix our system, its really difficult to fix, our clickbank system is huge and it can take sometime.We currently have over billions of affiliates and millions of advertisers, our cb is hugh)

    @rikat, how can u say, even google doesn't know whether cb shave or not, tell them to hire some coder from nepal or china and fix their sql.
     
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    Technical problems does not mean that they are shaving sales ! About protection from stealing - yes, I know, but most of peoples are using direct links .. that's why I mentioned it.
     
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  13. vstard

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    I'm not saying they are shaving, I don't know if they do, maybe they don't and its just a tracking problems, I just have a feel and I want to hear if anyone also feel the same. :)

    I got to go sleep now.
     
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    I am using 301 forwards on domain names to keep my direct link more difficult to see.
     
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    I very much doubt they shave sales
     
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  16. vstard

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    Who are you hiding your links from, there are no ghost on servers protocol. :p

    Are u a clickbank employee, I'm getting too suspicious, maybe u r not, sorry.
     
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  17. TigerPublishing

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    @vstard - there's so many other factors which may affect your sales. It's easy to put it all on CB, especially with all this rumour flying around, but think about it:

    If CB really were having massive trouble with their sales processing, they'd be investing serious money in fixing it. If we can't make any money, they can't either, so it's in their interests to have a working system.

    If you can absolutely rule out any other factor (such as traffic quality, seasonal influences, the recession, outdated products being replaced with new and better competitors, publishers changing their landing page/breaking the payment link/removing their offer, etc), email CB with proper tracking screenshots and see what they say.
     
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    i sometimes wonder too. I hope I can trust Clickbank but when I see that I have no sales recently, sometimes I wonder.
     
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  19. vstard

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    Either you are a clickbank employee or you are a loyal customer.

    (I'm a very very suspicious man)

    Here is my last words.

    @clickbank, please fix ur tracking system for people who are promoting your products and people who will be promoting your products in the future.No need to fix for me because I'm going...

    peace.
     
    vstard, Feb 28, 2009 IP
  20. SDG-Nick

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    Lol no i do not work for Clickbank but i run simpledietguide.com which is on their Marketplace and can't say i have had any issues. However i can't relate to the current issues Affiliates are facing with so called "Untracked Sales".
     
    SDG-Nick, Feb 28, 2009 IP