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Do you know that Muhammad possessed slaves and captives?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by bbn, Oct 11, 2007.

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    Do you know that Muhammad possessed slaves and captives?

    How can one possibly follow such a man's teaching who:
    1. Had sex with a 9 year old.
    2. Possessed slaves and captives
    3. Ordered the killings of many and possibly himself was a Killer during the wars he was involved in.
    4. Intentionally crippled people.
    5. Illiterate.

    How can people follow such a man's self made religion?
    SEMrush
     
    bbn, Oct 11, 2007 IP
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  2. bbn

    bbn Peon

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    And there are black muslims in America and Africa that believe he is a prophet.
     
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    #3
    don't you think you are insulting a icon for the religion.
    it is not appropriate
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    WTF is the big deal?

    Who here HASN'T owned slaves and captives?
     
    guerilla, Oct 11, 2007 IP
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    Me? Am I missing out on something? I've never had a single slave nor captive :mad:
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    lorien, you are TOTALLY missing out.

    You definitely need to get some slaves and captives. They're a hoot!
     
    guerilla, Oct 11, 2007 IP
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    Sorry man, don't you think you love nice lies more than truth?
    Don't you think any man who can't handle the truth is a p.&&y?
     
    bbn, Oct 11, 2007 IP
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    How can you possible follow such a man that calls himself "SON OF GOD" or together, him, the father and the holly spirits are GODS and they together make one GOD.. But wait its only ONE GOD out there??? 3=1 ?? O well

    A GOD that needs to be crucified, murdered and torcher to clear up peoples sins.. Cause God cannot just simply clean up people sins without getting torcher??

    To answer some of your questions :-

    1.Had sex with 9 year old--- In the old days, in all religions. If a woman reaches puberty then she is LEGAL to get married--- Its not adultery act either

    2.Possessed slaves and captives--- After Islam, mohammed used to buy slaves and free them. Islam is against slavery.

    3.Ordered the killings of many and possibly himself was a Killer during the wars he was involved in-- He never ordered to kill civilians "women, children and elder"-- During war you fight those that carry weapons. During the Islamic expansion, many kings accepted Islam without blood shed.

    4. Intentionally crippled people-- As if you were in those time and witnessed that.

    5. Illiterate--- The reason Islam is so powerful is because of the great literature and wording of Quran-- Even the biggest arabic philosophers, and poets back in the days couldn't duplicate it. But again its the words of GOD
     
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    The OP is another example of why Christians get a bad rap.

    You will get NOWHERE by insulting another person's religion.
     
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    Some people here worship Bush, the self proclaimed "Decider" and "Commander Guy."

    The only difference as far as I can see from bbn's list of 1-5 is that Bush hasn't had sex with a 9 year old.
     
    AGS, Oct 11, 2007 IP
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    #11
    Islam ended slavery not brought slavery , we are talking about years 500-600 , it did not end it quickly but set the rules to end it.
    America had civil war to end slavery and if you read history most of the President had slaves that was seen normal that days.

    I don't know from where your hate of muslims coming and what motivates you to be aggressive , cause I am a muslim and I don't hate anybody and don't care about people's religions much.
     
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    Did you conveniently forget to mention that they only freed slaves that were muslim and not those which were non-muslim?
     
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    Can we get a show of hands here? Who wouldn't like some captives and slaves?

    I'll put my hand up. I'd definitely like enough slaves to establish a harem.
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    Wow what a shitty argument !! Muhammad had slaves :D

    Did the OP even think for one moment what he wrote ?

    We have colonies around the world in 21st century and some guy is disgusted by someone having slaves in medieval period hahahaha.

    What a joke....
     
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    He was also a world class badmitton player. No one gives credit where it's deserved!
     
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    Lame excuse on 1. 54 year old man with a 9 yearl old girl who reached puberty for Muhammad. Morally OK too. Ha, ha

    Lame excuse on 2. During Islam he possessed slaves and captives.

    Lame excuse on 3. A prophet is not supposed to go fight wars in the first place. Otherwise everybody would use it as an excuse AS CURENTLY MUSLIM TERRORISTS USE IT.


    Very lame excuse on 4. It is documented in the Quran itslef.

    Lame excuse on 5. Trying to hide the fact that he Indeed was TOTALLY ILLITERATE.

    QURAN = TRUE ANTIDEMOCRATIC RELIGION. Prove me I am wrong by showing one trully democratic muslim country.
     
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    Because he's the prophet for the religion of peace, the religion that sees every person as equal, why else would he had slaves?
     
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    You cannot project todays moral standards to those in middle ages. In that time there was really nothing un-normal for 10yr old girl to get married....

    It's not like he invented slavery ;) In that time all had slaves. Long before him and long after him even.

    99,9% people of that time was illiterate....

    Pope fought many wars ;)
     
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    You can judge the past and present with the same moral standards, that is what you should be doing.

    the pope probably didn't lift a finger except to tell someone where to go fight, but even then who is the pope? The pope is the head of a city and the catholic religion, but again what does he have to do with anything?
     
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    You cannot project the present into the past man. Moral standards were different then. It was nothing unusual to be married with some 10yr old as disgusting as it may sound to us today but that was how things used to be.

    I mentioned pope since someone judged muhammad because he went to war. I mean how stupid argument is that to judge religion on this ?
    Pope went to war, hell all people went to war ... nothing unusual....

    Also stating something about illeteracy ... oh my god ! Except for jews people then didn't know nothing. Even in 19th century people in Europe didn't know how to read and write.

    Of course it is useless to mention where this writing that we write on this forum came from :D
     
    iatbm, Oct 12, 2007 IP
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