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do you know how google tracks the clicks??

Discussion in 'Guidelines / Compliance' started by jobin_martin, Dec 22, 2005.

  1. #1
    Here is my story,

    I started an account with blogspot and posted some google ads in it...

    I gave the address to my friends...

    2 days later,when i visited the adsense page i saw that there were 9 clicks but no money advanced to me???

    I asked google about this and their reply is as follows
    SEMrush

    Hello Jobin,

    To protect your interests as well as those of our advertisers, Google
    monitors clicks and impressions on Google ads to prevent any abuse of the
    impressions for any activity intended to artificially drive up an
    Please note that it is against our program policies for website publishers
    to click on the ads on their own web pages.
    Clicks or impressions deemed by our monitoring system to be invalid will
    appear in your reports, but because advertisers are not charged for them,
    no associated revenue will be shown. Please rest assured that your account
    is being properly credited for all valid clicks and impressions.

    For additional questions, we suggest you visit our AdSense Support site at
    https://www.google.com/support/adsense . If you're unable to find an
    answer to your question on our site, please feel free to reply to this
    email.

    Sincerely,


    The Google AdSense Team​
    I am sure I did not click on any of the ads

    Is it possible that friends clicking on the ads from the same network has created the problem????


    please advice
     
    jobin_martin, Dec 22, 2005 IP
    SEMrush
  2. Roman

    Roman Buffalo Tamer™

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    #2
    Yes, and you better tell him to stop or your next post will be: do you know how google tracks people to ban??
     
    Roman, Dec 22, 2005 IP
  3. jobin_martin

    jobin_martin Peon

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    #3
    I mean not from the same computer,but from a different system in our college campus....does anybody know how they they track???
     
    jobin_martin, Dec 22, 2005 IP
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    kniveswood Well-Known Member

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    We do not know. But you better heed roman1's advice. He's not kidding. :)
     
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    Eric Giguere Peon

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    #5
    Even though the computers are different, chances are that to the external world (i.e. Google) they appear to have the same IP address. When you tell family and friends about any sites you create, always be sure to tell them NOT to click to the ads. It will save you trouble.
     
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    FFMG Well-Known Member

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    It is possible that the IP address is the same for both machines, (Not the network IP address but the address to the outside world).

    If that is the case then Google only knows your server by that one IP address, so if Clicks come from the same IP address as the owner of the account then they assume that you are doing something wrong.

    Never tell your friends to click, even better, don’t tell your friends about Adsense, they will be tempted to "do you a favour" and click 50 times on some ad.

    FFMG
     
    FFMG, Dec 22, 2005 IP
  7. devin

    devin Guest

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    computers networked in an area (like an office or library or cyber cafe) tend to have similar IP addreses. even if 50 diferrent people clicked the ads on 50 difeferent PCs, google may see that as invalid clicks.
     
    devin, Dec 22, 2005 IP
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    mjewel Prominent Member

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    There is a lot more to Google's click fraud detection/prevention than just IP address and cookies. As an adwords advertiser, I'm not going to go into specifics, but google has checks in place to cut down on invalid clicks to deal with sophisticated groups that try to steal money from adwords advertisers.

    I'm sure some fraudulent clicks go undetected, but never tell your friends about your sites as it will only be a matter of time before they ban your account.
     
    mjewel, Dec 22, 2005 IP
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    jobin_martin Peon

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    thanx guys for all that great info...I didn't know that a number of computers in same network can have same ip nos.brilliant guys marvellous!!!
     
    jobin_martin, Dec 22, 2005 IP
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    Hmm, this may bode poorly for me, seeing as ALL my visitors are university students behind college networks...
     
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  11. FFMG

    FFMG Well-Known Member

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    You can easily check if the IP address is indeed different, (depending on the OS).

    But I truly believe that Google is also not stupid, they know that many computers can have the same IP address, (and they know IP ranges of PC on campus and cyber cafés). As long as you are not doing anything wrong you should be ok.

    FFMG
     
    FFMG, Dec 22, 2005 IP
  12. amitpatel_3001

    amitpatel_3001 Results Follow Patience

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    #12
    They track in many ways.
    Ip
    Cookies
    Lan Netword cos u said its the college Campus,so same IP
    OS
    Browser
    Screen Resolution
    Visits duration
    Regular Clicks
    These are things which i think they track from.
    May be Iam Wrong, but they also use many other systems also.
     
    amitpatel_3001, Dec 22, 2005 IP
  13. sufyaaan

    sufyaaan Banned

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    It is not merely a matter of similar IP address as Pierre Zarokian, President of SubmitExpress.com states in his article Click Fraud: Is It Happening to You? at http://developers.evrsoft.com/article/internet-marketing/seo/stop-ppc-click-fraud.shtml:

    - Repetition of IP Addresses

    - An irregular or large number of clicks coming from the same geographic region or country.

    - IP addresses belonging to cloaking software companies

    - Keywords that normally do not get any traffic are now getting an unusually high number of clicks.

    - Your click throughs have doubled or tripled without having had any bid changes or rank changes
     
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    FFMG Well-Known Member

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    If a website is on a campus, dedicated to campus life then the traffic is bound to be from the same IP, the same region and repeated.
    In fact I would be surprised if traffic came from anywhere else.
    Surely G knows about those special cases.

    FFMG
     
    FFMG, Dec 22, 2005 IP
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    sufyaaan Banned

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    I think I referred an article above. Well, here are some of the things that might be part of their invalid click detection algo. :D

    - IP address

    - User session information

    - User cookie information

    - The network to which an IP belongs

    - The user's browser information

    - The search term requested by the user

    - The time of the click

    - The rank of the advertiser's listing

    - The bid of the advertiser's listing

    - The time of the search

    - The time of the click

    Again, it is just speculation about it. GG won't be disclosing how they are detecting invalid clicks in the open, will they?
     
    sufyaaan, Dec 22, 2005 IP
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    FFMG Well-Known Member

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    I can’t get to the article, (and it is a bit early for me to start reading articles on click fraud :)).
    But in any case, the fact remains that G has some rule, and from experience they are quite good at catching fraudsters.

    FFMG
     
    FFMG, Dec 23, 2005 IP
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    dark_3mpire87 Peon

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    whatever, adsense team is made of bunch of stupidz :mad::mad:
     
    dark_3mpire87, Sep 2, 2010 IP
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    That also happens to me before. I have more than 10 clicks on a single ads and google didn't pay me. G email me that there's something wrong with clicks and to protect their advertiser, they don't count that click as valid.
     
    belland, Sep 2, 2010 IP
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    good conversation
    i learnt from this
     
    amarendra, Feb 20, 2011 IP