Do you guys believe in life after death?

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  1. Breeze Wood

    Breeze Wood Peon

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    #141

    The Origin of man, the Garden of Eden and mankind's expulsion was from the Outerworld of the Everlasting and the true religion of Earth that was again lost perhaps forever at year 0 that can not now be reattained without first bringing to justice the Crucifiers in finding the path for Remittance.

    ECCA: Edenist Congregation Church of Amageddon
     
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  2. contact writer today

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    #142
    One has to believe in life after death.It all depends upon our Karmas if we do good karmas in this life after death when we get rebirth we may get a birth in a rich family with less problems and if we do bad karmas we may get birth at a place where life may be difficult. Therefore one should live a very pious life trying to help the poor and down trodden. It is a very deep subject and can not be explained in this short quick post
     
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  3. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #143
    The desirability and probability of an outcome are not correlated.

    Did you watch The Passion of the Christ one too many times and decide to go hunt down the Jews? :p


    No one doesn't.

    One doesn't have to believe in any sort of fantastical nonsense. Weak people choose to believe.

    I want to come back as a Decepticon!
     
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  4. Breeze Wood

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    #144
    You are factitious as usual Spencer.

    The crucifiers are who they are and repeated through time to be brought to Justice - not harbored by Spencer's and their incendiary rhetoric and pseudo kinships.

    We are not Christians whose abandonment of the Saint is tantamount to the crucification nor the Jewish being the crucifiers as their religion.
     
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  5. vitalbusiness

    vitalbusiness Peon

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    #145
    Some would totally disagree with you. Will/desire determine your actions and your actions determine what outcome it will be.
     
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    #146
    On the other hand, desirability also increases competition, which decreases the probability of an outcome in your favor.

    But in this specific instance, there are no "actions" you can take to bring life after death into existence. Once your brain rots, there is no container for your consciousness.
     
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  7. vitalbusiness

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    #147
    Man, your heaven is so complicated! :p
     
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  8. Breeze Wood

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    #148
    Those who do not venture from their container indeed are destined to perish within it and in Spencer's case perish within it while the container still lives.
     
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    #149
    Everything will be meaningless if there is an end after death.
     
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  10. Will.Spencer

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    #150
    bworld:

    I hope you realize that in this context "venture from their container" is synonymous with "go out of their mind".
     
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    #151
    Well said and for some the attainment in reaching the Outerworld of the Everlasting.
     
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    #152
    What a sad and selfish perspective you have.

    Personally i couldnt think of anything worse than living forever. Think about that. Living forever, infinity. You will see everything an infinite amount of times, do everything an infinite amount of times, have every conversation conceivable with every other person who had ever lived an infinite amount of times. How mind-numbingly boring.

    What makes life special is the fact that is the only one we get and it's finite. And here you are, wasting it on your knees begging for another one. It's pathetic.
     
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  13. vitalbusiness

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    #153
    I wouldn't mind living forever as long as I did not have to strive for the daily existence as we all do here on Earth. If I could just sleep forever (waking up for just short periods of time) that would be great.
     
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    #154

    Knowing what is being discussed would help, no one is required to reach the Outerworld and once there, there is no more certainty in continued existence than the present.

    As you are able to end your life so are you able to reach the next level - is also what is truly special about life and the endless goals for those not afraid of the challenge.
     
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    #155
    I reckon you might do well coming back as a cat then, 9 lives, sleeps forever. :)
     
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    LOL. I didn't think about that at the time, but I did describe a cat to a T!
     
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    #157
    This just isnt an ignorant comment from an atheist, but an ignorant comment from an anti-theist. Remote viewing is just one aspect that your ignorant of, and just one reason that over 75% of doctors are either spiritual or believe in God. Its amazing how you call religious people judgmental and it seems like you are one of the most judgmental people out there. You consider life to be something that arose out of chance (yet have no proof at all for this) and now you want us to believe that in your worldview that it is special? You really are a good joker dude. Remote viewing is just one thing that has been going on for hundreds of years but no one paid much attention to it until recently, but it does seem to shatter the militant atheist view that this is all we have, but if you want todisbelieve in God and an afterlife that is your parogative, but it will also be your perogative to pay the consequences when you are wrong. What I found most interesting is a study by Joseph Needham on why scientific acheievment progressed so repaidly in the 16th and 17th century in the west as opposed to china. Joseph needham was honest enough to admit it was because of Belief in God (acreator of all). The funny part of Joseph Needham is HE WAS AN ATHEIST!!!!

    I know this will do no good as you are very stubbornly grounded in your hatefull and ignorant ways, but I liked this quote and it seems to show you in a nutshell

    "It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. With the proof now in place, cosmologists can no longer hide behind the possibility of a past-eternal universe. There is no escape: they have to face the problem of a cosmic beginning."

    - Alexander Vilenkin


    God Bless you Stox

    By the way I heard about Hitchens Cancer. Im praying that our lord heals him from his cancer as I do not wish suffering on any human being no matter what he has or hasnt done.


    Vitalbusiness: who wants to live forever suffering every day. That is not what heaven is about. heaven is supposed to be a place of joy and serenity. The reason why Stox doesnt want to live forever is because he is looking at it from his very naive-ignorant and materialistic worldview. This is the main reason why Antony Flew (may hsi soul rest in Peace) wouldnt make the conversion from deism to theism. He knew atheism was a nonsensical world view that just couldnt hold water anymore, but he was deftly frightened of living forever as you can see from his video interview. No sane human being would want to poof into non existence, but some irrational people actually welcome it. I really believe that if stox truely believed in his world view he wouldnt be wasting all his time on forums and websites trying to convince people with his world view.

    Irrational skepticism is a sure sign that someone has gone to a place of no return and that is when you actually need help:)
     
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    #158
    Laxman, I couldnt have put it better myself. You are talking like a reasonable person. Some people might disagree but then again we do have lots of loonies in this world lol
     
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    #159
    Yes I do, reading and understanding the bible very well will open your eyes to many facts.
    Its not meant to to have soul similar to our bodies, its just soul of any shape.
     
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  20. wptheme

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    #160
    Haha, sorry Will for not realizing your reply. I am a bit too busy currently with my finals. This is such a typical Atheist question. I am not sure if you've heard of this before but here goes :)

    Surat Al-'Ikhlāş (The Sincerity) - سورة الإخلاص

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    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم



    Sahih International
    Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One,

    Muhsin Khan
    Say (O Muhammad (Peace be upon him)): "He is Allah, (the) One.




    Sahih International
    Allah , the Eternal Refuge.

    Muhsin Khan
    "Allah-us-Samad (The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need, He neither eats nor drinks).



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    Sahih International
    He neither begets nor is born,

    Muhsin Khan
    "He begets not, nor was He begotten;



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    Nor is there to Him any equivalent."

    Muhsin Khan
    "And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him."

    As you can obviously read it, there is nothing compared to Him. Allah is unique and the only One. He is out of this creating form.
    He is the Creator.

    If he wants something done, its "Kun Fayakun"
    Allah commands the universe to be ("kun!" !كن), and it is (fayakun فيكن).

    Don't let your small mind to get buzzled up by those questions ok Will.
    Allahuakbar!
     
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