Do you believe Placebo pills work?

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    Well if you believe in something strongly enough it may encourage the body to heal itself in the case of blindness through positive thinking.
     
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    But what I don't get, is why the body heals itself when it thinks it's going to be cured :confused:
     
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    Yeah....Especially the ones that are either red or blue.
     
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    Positive thoughts lower stress along with other things which in turn helps the body heal faster.
     
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    Placebo Pills,
    Yes I think the power of positive thought works wonders.
     
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    I think they're illegal in the UK, do you think they should be? Seeing as you are lying to the patient, telling them that the pill is a cure.
     
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    No they're not - all drug trials have pacebos mixed in with the active samples. The person administering the drug doesn't know whether it's active or placebo until all of the data is collected at the end of the trial. The placebo effect is well known - there's little doubt there's a connection between positivity of thought and improved physical condition.

     
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    Ive read before of steroid users using fake gear, not realising of course and they have put on muscle and grew stronger as much as you would on the real juice, purely because they believed it was real steroids.

    Similarly you can become ill through plenty of stress, lots of worrys and stresses going through your mind will lead to temporary probs with your health.

    I saw another experiment on tv where twin brothers were given drinks and a few hours to get through them, one was given alcohol, the other thought his was alcohol too.

    They both claimed to be feeling quite drunk a few hours later, even though only one of them had actually drank real alcohol.

    The power of suggestion
     
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    As they say positive thinking may work wonders, or move mountains, regardless of the curing power of the pills.
     
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    i usually try to avoid pills as much as possible.

    but well this is case of blind, not sure it might just work out. at such a stage i would eat any pill u give :p
     
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    Yes, it's called a double blind study.
     
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    Is that just in drug trials, or can they be used in hospitals and such? My teacher told me they were illegal to use in hospitals.

    -Hecky.
     
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    I believe that sometimes your local GP would do it, to see if your imagining symptoms and if they just gave you sugar tablets and you return 2 weeks later saying they really helped, then that speaks for itself.
     
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    I'm unsure of the answer to that. I know it's definitely the case in drug trials.

     
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    Gaining is one thing, but no where, not even close to being on 'juice'. I've never used it, but from what I know, people I know, there simply is no way. Gaining a little extra yes, as much as steroids not even a remote possibility.
     
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    I believe placebo works because I used to take them.....
     
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    Hi GRIM, ive seen it and it is shocking, a mild exargeration from myself admittedly, but the gain was indeed impressive and way more than you would expect from natural (non chemical enhanced) training.

    The drugs used during the cycle were tested and proven to be fake, yet the Bodybuilder gained as if on roids.
     
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    Your post itself doesn't make much sense. You say you exagerate = yes it was no where near what roids would do, as there simply is no way. Yet you end with 'yet the Bodybuilder gained as if on roids'.

    Sorry I don't care what any study says as they can easily be manipulated, there simply is no way that anyone could gain anything near like actual hardcore roids on a placebo.

    Even herbals, naturals, legal prosteroids, etc are not even remotely close to actual gear.

    A gain yes, a steroid gain no way in hell.. The only way I could see it remotely being possible is if they were comparing to a weak dose of an oral or something, something not very strong in the first place.
     
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    Body is very complex. Especially your brain. Every emotion triggers various complex chemicals to be released into your body. For example boxers who win a fight heal much quicker than those who lost. So when you go from depressed to happy and positive there are chemical changes going on in your body. It works both ways too. Your body can only get read of certain chemicals through tears. So every now and then its good to cry. :D
     
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