Some people claim to be atheist. Do you believe they really have themselves convinced there is no God or are they just denying God's existence?
I used to be an atheist and I really thought that I believed there was no God. But, later when I became a Christian I learned that I was only denying his existence.
I believe in the existence of silly threads. To the question, are some people convinced?, Uh, yep. Deep down? They feel like they need a burger and a pint.
umm... its quite a paradoxical question me thinks, its like asking: do you believe in the existence of god?
[sarcasm on] You got me! All this time, I really was just like a little kid sticking my fingers in my ears saying "lalalala", when in reality I knew God existed. Why ever have I been so silly? [sarcasm off] This is the most ridiculous thread topic I've ever seen. Yes, you idiot, I know it's hard to fathom, but some people genuinely are convinced there is no God. Just like I have to force myself to accept that some people worship a God I don't believe exists. I don't agree with it, but I can understand it and accept it. I'm sorry you can't have the same tolerance for opposing ideas.
Atheism is the natural condition of all humans at birth and prior to indoctrination I am not atheist anymore
I'd say we are born theist and world tries to indoctrinate us away from that. Despite the anti-God indoctrination when the brakes fail on a mountain road or if an loved one is diagnosed with a life threatening disease we probably all have God in our pleading or blaming thoughts. We don't cry out to uncaused matter and randomness.
I note you've been hovering over your thread today like a fly on, oh, nevermind. Funny, I've been through plenty (you know, near death myself, seeing others off, the usual), and god doesn't enter in. I know it must seem inconceivable that others don't believe as you do. They do. Not sure why this, like so many things, matters to you. If you've got the ironclad answer as you so often bellow you do, why do you ask for incessant bolstering through such ridiculous crap as this thread? (Note to self: I won't engage in a useless debate in a ridiculous thread. I won't engage in a useless debate in a ridiculous thread. I won't engage in a useless debate in a ridiculous thread. I won't engage in a useless debate in a ridiculous thread. I won't engage in a useless debate in a ridiculous thread. I won't engage in a useless debate in a ridiculous thread.)
Exactly. Although I am not really sure if I believe in god but I try to follow christian moral and belief and I like some of the messages God sends - ofcourse excluding sex before marriage and voting for the party my local priest told me to and couple of other "craps" that church as institution promotes but I am sure no atheist.
I noticed you hover around my threads, too. I think it's fair game to have a thread like this as we have plenty of threads asking about the existence of God. I recently heard someone say that when they hear someone say they're an atheist, they respond by saying "prove it". I thought that was interesting. Why don't you chime in on the existense of God threads and comment on the silliness of the thread.
Prove you exist! You're as real as a Ron Paul supporter, you just exist on the internet! This is the most ridiculous thread I've ever seen, and speaking about this forum, that's quite an accomplishment. If you can't see the distinction between the debate over the existence of a supposed omniscient creator, and self-realization and acknowledgement of your own belief system, you're either reading too much Nietzsche & Kierkegaard, need to lay off the psychedelics, or are just being difficult.
Is that Corey Feldman in your avatar? If its you its a trip how much you remind me of him.... And tbarr60.....I know this is strange but I saw a guy at the DMV one day months ago I was so freaked out because I swear it was you in Ruidoso, New Mexico....can't explain why I would even remember your pic while at the DMV but I guess i was spendin too much time on DP..... Strange...I know.....
Corey Feldman I already got someone mentioning him and my avatar. No I am much better looking. This was taken when celebrating new year 2005 I think and I was already a little drunk that day. Corey Feldman hahaha
Tbarr, I thought it was pretty clear, but let me see if I can help. On threads that have to do with god, the absence of god, etc., have you ever noticed that the contest is generally framed with the question: You say you believe X. You (are) (are not) full of crap in believing X. and I'll tell you why. This at least makes the sensible assumption that the individual believes what they say they believe. It also accords them the modicum of respect worthy of anyone on the forum, namely, that they are in possession of their minds. It isn't in the framework of: You say you believe X. It just isn't possible you believe X. So, I'm going to make a poll to ask - is it possible for someone to believe X? Do you detect a difference? The latter says, c'mon, you don't believe what you say you believe. It is nonsensical, presumptive and worthless as a subject for discussion. It has as much merit as someone saying "I like potatoes," and starting a thread to ask: <sarcasm on - to borrow from a fellow member> The former is usually nonsensical, presumptive, and worthless as a subject for discussion as well. But at least it can make for some colorful dialogue. <sarcasm off> Omgitsfletch, love that Kierkegaard, enjoy Camus and only want to drink after Sartre.
Northpoint, Your missing the point. The question is primarily pointed at non-atheist and is asking if they believe atheists really are what they say they are. BTW, there is a Preview Post button so you don't need to have " Last edited by northpointaiki : Today at {timestamp}." as your pseudo signature. HTH
Well, shucks, that sure clears it up...Tbarr and Co. asking amongst themselves whether folk in atheist land really mean it? Yep, that is an improvement. Here, I'll make it easy. Atheists care so much about what the Tbarrs of the world think that they create this public image just in order to engage, because they're, well, so gosh darn lonely, while all the while, they are really as smug, judgmental, myopic, and hypocritical as Tbarr and Co... Man, brilliant move. You got 'em! You see, Tbarr, I don't hide anything. Much like you taking the word "sucks" to literally mean fellatio (and giggling like a school child at the possibilities), when I meant nothing of the kind nor had the thought in my head, you apparently have a lot of demons hidden in that cranium of yours that really just need to come unbidden, for your own sake. Hold on to your drawers, now...I edit my posts, and couldn't care less whether that is known. Oh, my troubled friend. Seeing the things that concern you, and the manner in which you express your concerns and participate in dialogue with others, I am reminded of: 1 Corinthians 13:11 p.s.: By the way, "primarily pointed at non-atheists", or "primarily pointed at a non-atheist," but not -You might want to make friends with the edit button. So many of your posts are riddled with elementary mistakes it makes it hard to see the gold.
OK I guess we're just trying to have fun now No-Point-Achey by getting off topic with spehlcheken and misinterpreting old posts so why don't I jump right in. Nah, I won't do that, it would be pointless to bring up how you said you were going to leave this webmaster forum since you were no longer a webmaster but you didn't come through on that promise or to suggest that you switch your back woods martial arts studio to Rex Kwon Do or suggest that the next time you want to set up a restaurant in a region that loves smelt and pasties you might want to consider not trying to sell them snails for dinner even if you could keep the costs low by using illegal workers. Of course it would be unwise to take up such a discussion with a man who almost got a technical degree from Cal and did doctoral work at Michigan in beer making, NoPointAchey is a genius, the Bobby Fisher of DP, I wouldn't want to go messing with him. Bow to your sensei!! ______________________________________________ Never edited by tbarr60: Today at 11:27 pm or ever.
Oh, man...that is really bad, but in a hilarious kind of way - a "watching a grown man spew nonsense after crapping his own pants" kind of hilarity. Here, for starters: In other words, if you want to insult me, you need to employ something that imparts disdain, scorn, derision, all those juicy words that come down to the need for you to use skill in heaping abuse from a superior position. A touch of the truth would also help, to really sting. Merely turning catatonic and throwing a red-faced temper tantrum doesn't really do the trick, my wit-challenged friend. But I do feel bad, little buddy - I better understand now why you resort to such mistruths and petulance whenever your colors are merely shown for what they are. Paul's saying: Presumes you have, in fact, ceased being a child. Would a puppy make it better? (By the way, it's Bobby Fischer, the only illegal immigrants in the U.P. are lost, horny elk from Montana, my doctoral work was from Cal, my malting and brewing education was from Heriot-Watt, Edinburgh, I'm an autodidact when it comes to beer drinking education and you don't say 'never...ever' in a sentence unless you are a toddler talking to your pre-school teacher. Now, say it quietly - I promise, no one is listening - edits are gooooooodddddddd.)