Do you believe in God?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Ephemeral, Feb 24, 2007.

  1. eXe

    eXe Notable Member

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    #41
    The question I am asking is, according to your flawed theory assuming "we are created by god", who created god? Surely, since everything needs to be created (according to you), so does god!
     
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    #42
    and to the Christians out there

    Christianity is a faith, a belief. it's not a religion.

    Religions create gods, but God created Christianity.

    That's why the bible talks so much about faith. Believing there's a God even if you can't see Him.
     
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    #43
    "I doubt God was 'created'. His name is I am that I am, or I am that I will Be. He says He is the same yesterday, today and forever. Since He existed before time it makes sense that He had no point or time of origin, given such things did not exist before the creation of a physical reality."
     
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    #44
    I agree with that.

    Our human minds are too weak to justify the creation of God.
     
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    #45
    Pick & mix, twist & prune, then add a little bullshit to achieve rhythmic convenience. Great going:rolleyes:

    If god need not be created, neither do all the things that "god" supposedly created.
     
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    #46
    I meant that I don't know for sure how God was created but I provided a verse before trying to explain it.

    So what do you think? You're going to become a bug after you die?
     
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    #47
    i think a very simple way to put it is that God has no limitations.. we cannot limit His existence to a certain TIME when he "suddenly" appeared.. in fact HE WAS always there.. as there is no limit to His power, there is no Time limit to the begining of HIS existence.. HE simply IS.. u can't even say he is THERE.. because He's not there... HE's every where..
    GOD just IS!!!
    WHO WAS AND IS AND IS TO COME... there's no time or point of creation for our GOd.. HE just is.. the great I AM:D
     
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    #48
    Ok let's just settle this right now. I'm atheist. That said, explain these three things:

    • Why are people born with physical birth defects such as extra limbs, deformed limbs, and extra fingers etc?
    • Why are people born with mental diseases such as autism, and overall mental retardation?
    • Why do humans have useless things on our bodies such as an appendix, and chest hair?

    Those three things alone disprove your ridiculous creationist story. Evolution is a proven, and yes I say PROVEN scientific fact. Creationism is a made up fallacy that no sane person actually believes.

    PS: Your belief in god does not give you the right to use upper case letters for random words for "he", "truth", "him", etc. If I were your English teacher, I'd give you all F grades.
     
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    #49
    Evolution isn't scientifically proven. It is not and never will be.
    God didn't make the world so that it would be perfect. People make their own decisions like if they want to believe in Him or not. Lets say you smoke crack while pregnant. The baby will most likely have some birth defects. Mental retardation can come from incest.

    P.S. My belief is God does give me the right to use upper case letters when I talk about Him.
     
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    #50
    If I provide a verse from a (fictional) Harry Potter book I am going to be (rightfully) laughed at and called an idiot. But if I laugh at the verse you provided from the (also fictional) Bible and call you an idiot, I'll most likely receive an infraction for attacking/harassing other members. Such is the irrational influence that religion unfortunately exerts.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/humbug
     
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    #51
    Whilst I'm not surprised at the extreme ignorance of a dedicated religious fundamentalist, I'm very surprised you deny facts.

    Again, I say evolution IS FACT, the only part that is debated is how evolution occured: IE through Darwin's natural selection. My suggestion is you educate yourself, to stop the vast humiliation you must suffer for being so uneducated. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html
     
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    #52
    There is no proof that there is such thing as evolution.
     
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    #53
    I think it's funny how person (A) can call person (B) an idiot because person (B) quoted something that was written by person (C)? How can person (B) rightfully be an idiot? :confused: The way this should work is, person (A) is an idiot for calling person (B) an idiot or calling person (C) an idiot. Especially when person (C) died thousands of years ago.

    Col :D
     
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    #54
    Why don't you actually read the link, or any other for that fact? Why do you continue to be such an overall ignoramus?
     
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    #55
    * Why are people born with physical birth defects such as extra limbs, deformed limbs, and extra fingers etc?
    * Why are people born with mental diseases such as autism, and overall mental retardation?

    I can't answer them, but i know those people are truly special.

    And example is below.

    Helen Keller

    * Why do humans have useless things on our bodies such as an appendix, and chest hair?


    LOL , I think Chess hair prevents us from getting cold. hehe
     
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    #56
    I don't have an interest in reading the link. Not because I'm ignorant but because it won't change my mind. I believe what is written in the Bible and the Bible created the universe.

    PS - I already answered the questions you asked.
     
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    #57
    Ofcourse it isn't scientifically proven. That's why it's taught in schools across the civilized world & can be seen in action. Fossils are misleading tools of satan.

    </sarcasm>


    Interesting... I wonder what other "rights" your belief in god grants you. Other than burning "witches" at the stake, indulging in time consuming & productivity hampering prayer...

    **Shudders**
     
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    #58
    Yes, you're right. People with mental retardation that are either 1.) not able to take care of themselves, or 2.) working at Jewel for minimum wage are so extremely lucky to be touched by the hand of god. I think god FUBAR'd their creation.

    /sarcasm.

    Not sure what country you live in, but we have these things called clothes. Had them for quite some time too.
     
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    #59
    A Harry Potter book has no value in what we are talking about. You can go ahead and quote from it but it won't mean anything. The Bible does have value and meaning. Maybe not to you but to its followers, it does.
     
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    #60
    There was a time when people didn't wear as much clothes as we do now.
     
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