do you believe in God?why?

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  1. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #81
    FSM is more powerful than your god.
     
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    #82
    We don't believe in satan either. We leave imaginary things to the delusional and children. Be a good boy or father christmas might cross you off his list :rolleyes:

    You disbelieve in most of the gods ever invented, All but one infact. If you could understand why you disbelieve in all of these god you will understand why i disbelieve in yours.

    Do you know why you disbelieve in Thor?
    Do you think your reason for disbelieving is valid?
    If i disbelieve in your god for the same reason wouldn't that be a valid reason for disbelief?


    No they don't. Evolutionists say "the diversity of life is due to natural selection and mutations".

    The expanding universe. Something which is expanding in all directions must have a point of origin.

    Why would that be funny? Why would a species have to be extinct for it to be a "missing link"?

    Dating methods aren't flawed, But sometimes the specimen becomes contaminated. This is why when something is dated they don't just use one method, They use a variety of methods and more often that not each dating test is done my an independent lab and only after all dating methods have returned a result are the results compared.

    We don't know what occurred just before the big bang, But we don't have to invent invisible men. The intellectually honest have no problem with saying "we don't yet know". It's the easily fooled who think an invisible man in the sky has to be responsible for anything that they personally can't understand. People have always done it. When they didn't know what the sun was they invented an imaginary man who was responsible. We they didn't understand how humans got here they invented an invisible man who done it. Now you don't understand where the universe came from so you invent an invisible man who made it. It's infantile.
     
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    #83
    "Say it with me. I am a false prophet, and god is a superstition."

    Atheist will always win a debate, the only way for a theist to win is...to not debate. End of story!
     
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    #84
    FSM can also win.
     
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    And I don't believe in McDonald's ice cream.....

    However, you stay with the grown up fairy tales:rolleyes:.

    Very funny, some scientists actually believe this..

    You don't understand where the universe came from so you invent a story about a big bang, like you just said people have always made things up.

    'The intellectually honest have no problem with saying "we don't yet know"', yet you know there isn't a God?

    No one invented God, God invented man.

    "Say it with me. I am a mistaken person searching for the truth, and evolution is a complete lie."

    I just ate your FSM.

    Atheists don't understand any other than the text books they've been pounding. full of lies
     
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    Silly rabbit, if you are referring to the bible, we don't believe in that!
     
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  7. clinton

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    #87
    Quit twisting my words like an atheist
     
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  8. MelogKnaj

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    I don't believe in God because there is no prove he/she exists. I guess my general philosophy on it is "pics or it didn't happen".
     
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    WTF!!!! So you don't believe in the big bang?
     
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    The big bang is an explanation of the nature of the universe. We don't currently know where the energy in this universe came from and we don't know where the matter came from, We only know that it originated in the same place and exploded outwards. We have based that on observations, namely the observation that the universe is expanding in all directions.

    I don't know that there isn't a god and have never claimed to know. What i do know is that i have no reason to believe there is, And until i am show a reason to believe it i have to disbelieve it. That's how grown ups do things.

    Religion is very good at keeping people dumb and making them satisfied with not understanding. There is all that science out there, there is all this enormously fascinating stuff that you could learn. yet, because of superstition and brainwashing, you are compelled to dismiss it in the face of overwhelming evidence. I feel sorry for you, I really do. it must tear you to pieces every time you are forced to humiliate yourself in public by denying the obvious because it contradicts an unsupported superstition.

    If there is a god do you think he would want you to stand in the way of progress and be willfully ignorant? or would he want you to take advantage of the brain he gave you and understand the universe in which you live to the best of your ability?

    Do you know why you disbelieve in Thor?
    Do you think your reason for disbelieving is valid?
    If i disbelieve in your god for the same reason wouldn't that be a valid reason for disbelief?
     
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    Seeing the Patriots lose convinced me that there is a God, and He is just.
     
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    #92
    Religion... God... gods... all just infantile explanations of the inexplicable.

    And now for the losers corner!

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    #93
    "Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? (The Noble Quran, 21:30)"

    So we are in agreement
     
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  14. MelogKnaj

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    No I believe in the bing bang/other theories of the creation of the universe because there is scientific evidence to back it up. Pics or it didn't happen was just my creative internet way of putting it.
     
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    I am not superstitious or brainwashed. I am also not religious. In the Bible it says that God hates religion. I agree with you that religion oppresses people, keeps them stupid and enslaves them. I don't attend mass or walk up a flight of stairs on my knees. There is a God and He wants us to be free.

    I love science, I think it's the greatest thing in the world. However when broken logic and the denial of God are mixed it becomes dangerous and misleading. Human observation is often flawed. We have to move away from this type of reasoning. The people who understand and know better have to break away from the crowed.

    God wants us to use our minds and learn as much as we can about the universe we live in. He tells us not to be ignorant because theirs absolutely no hope for an ignorant person. I learn as much as I can all the time but just because a bunch of scientists believe that god doesn't exist or that we evolved we can't just follow what they say. We have to look at both sides and come to hour own intelligent conclusions. There is so much uncertainty in this world and we can't understand everything. There is nothing obvious that makes me want to deny God. I feel that there is a God and in my heart I know for certain that there is.

    I hope you'll come to know that there is more for us on this earth than just what we have now. You seem to be a very smart person but even intelligent people can become brainwashed. I can understand you feeling sorry for me, your only standing up for what you believe in, which is very honorable. I believe there is a life after this one and I don't want to see you end up on the bad side. I don't hate you or anything, sometimes it's tempting though:D I hope you find truth.
     
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    prepare for a lecture on atheist morals LOL:D

    Yeah a bunch of catholics:D
     
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    Creation shouts of the existence of God. Your own bodies are testimony to a greater intelligence than that of man. Look to the universe, the stars, suns, planets and moons. Jehovah is the greatest artist, mathmetician, teacher, leader, you name it. Revelation Chapter 4, Verse 11 says: "You are worthy, Jehovah, even our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they existed and were created."
     
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    Well, scientists can prove that paper doesn't exist:D
     
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    presents under the tree shout of the existence of santa. Your own christmas gifts are testimony to a fat bearded man who comes down the chimney.
     
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