Do YOU believe in evolution?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by astup1didiot, Oct 29, 2007.

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Do you believe in evolution?

Poll closed Nov 28, 2007.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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    24.5%
  1. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #541
    I am not Russian. Sure, just because I "learned" about one and not another it doesn't mean anything. :rolleyes:

    You know: the Russians had a funny doll. You place this doll on its head and it always rolls so that its head is up. It was a little trick where the bottom part of the doll was filled with some heavy stuff (some metal). I get the feeling that the way you are responding is similar to that brainless doll where Mohammed always comes on top (in your head) no matter what anyone says or shows to you.
     
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    #542
    You make no sense, your evidence for Jesus being superior is atheists.org, this is very laughable. You are pissed off at stox, ssandecki, so you take it out on the Muslims, typical of a hatefull person.

    Because you have never learnt about Mohammed (pbuh), this is your argument, i mean i feel like im talking to a brickwall.

    AND YOU HAVE SHOWED ME NOTHING!! whilst i have shown u a lot, im gonna copy and paste some stuff from the other thread.

    Non Muslims say about Muhammad (pbuh):

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    His complete biography has been authenticated and circulated amongst scholars around the world starting while he was still alive and continuing up until today. One of the first examples we quote from is from the Encyclopedia Britannica, as it confirms:


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    Another impressive tribute to Muhammad, peace be upon him is in the very well written work of Michael H. Hart, "The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History." He states that the most influential person in all history was Muhammad, peace be upon him, with Jesus second. Examine his actual words:

    [Michael H. Hart, THE 100: A RANKING OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS IN HISTORY, New York: Hart Publishing Company, Inc., 1978, page. 33.]

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    According to the Quran, Prophet Muhammad was the most excellent example for all of humanity. Even non-Muslim historians recognize him to be one of the most successful personalities in history. Read what the Reverend R. Bosworth-Smith wrote in "Mohammed & Mohammedanism" in 1946:


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    While we are reviewing statements from famous non-Muslims about Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, consider this:
    [Lamartine, HISTOIRE DE LA TURQUIE, Paris, 1854, Vol. II, pp. 276-277.]

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    And then we read what George Bernard Shaw, a famous writer and non-Muslim says:


    [The Genuine Islam, Singapore, Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936]

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    Then we found that K. S. Ramakrishna Rao, an Indian (Hindu) professor of Philosophy, in his booklet "Muhammad the Prophet of Islam" calls him the "perfect model for human life." Professor Ramakrishna Rao explains his point by saying:

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    What should we think about our prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, when someone with the worldly status such as Mahatma Gandhi, speaking on the character of Muhammad, peace be upon him, says in 'Young India':
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    English author Thomas Carlyle in his 'Heroes and Hero Worship', was simply amazed:

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    And Diwan Chand Sharma wrote in "The Prophets of the East":
    [D.C. Sharma, The Prophets of the East, Calcutta, 1935, pp. 12]

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    Muhammad, peace be upon him, was nothing more or less than a human being, but he was a man with a noble mission, which was to unite humanity on the worship of ONE and ONLY ONE GOD and to teach them the way to honest and upright living based on the commands of God. He always described himself as, 'A Servant and Messenger of God' and so indeed every action of his proclaimed to be.

    Speaking on the aspect of equality before God in Islam, the famous poetess of India, Sarojini Naidu says:
    [S. Naidu, Ideals of Islam, vide Speeches & Writings, Madras, 1918, p. 169]

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    In the words of Professor Hurgronje:

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    Edward Gibbon and Simon Ockley, on the profession of ISLAM, writes in "History of the Saracen Empires":

    [History of the Saracen Empires, London, 1870, p. 54]

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    EWolfgang Goethe, perhaps the greatest European poet ever, wrote about Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. He said:

    [Noten und Abhandlungen zum Weststlichen Dvan, WA I, 7, 32]


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  3. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #543
    Thanks. You've just proved that my theory about that Russian doll was right when it comes to describing you.

    If I was a hateful person like you claim I would tell you to go get lost to put it mildly. But I didn't say that and I won't.

    I am not sure if you're baiting me but let me ask you this: which religion do you think is the most feared one in the entire world?
     
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    #544
    Lol if you are fearing Muslim armies coming knocking at your door, let me put your brainwashed mind at rest.

    Most Muslim countries are banana republics run by puppet governments, have no real armies and are much inferior militarily.

    Let me ask you this which is the fastest growing religion here in the west?

    Christianity is no longer the worlds biggest religion because americans and europians unfortunately are becoming majority atheist/agnostic. Look at this threads poll! Christianity has sadly been loosing credibility since the 1950's.
     
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  5. proteindude

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    #545
    I see you refused to answer the question and typically you started with Christianity. Can you ever provide a straight answer?

    Oh YES: I believe that the fastest growing religion at the moment is Islam.
     
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    #546
    Well i would say non really, i have never feared any religion myself, if people fear Islam, its down to be being brainwashed and ignorant/naive of any geo-political knowledge.

    You know maybe the kind of people that watch foxnews.
     
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  7. proteindude

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    #547
    Or maybe the self preservation feeling kicks in.
     
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    #548
    If you notice, you were the one talking to atheists and then suddenly brought up Muhammed (pbuh), to me that just says you are very insecure.

    You know proteindude sometimes, its hard to believe im talking to someone who truly believes in God.

    You wouldn't care if christianity was corrupt and you agreed it was, you would still happily grind on blindly following.
     
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  9. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #549
    You asked me which religion I believe is the fastest growing and I told you which one it is: it's Islam.

    If you notice, your only "security" is in believing the Bible is corrupt because that is what you want to believe. You still didn't answer which religion is the most feared one. I didn't ask you about Fox news or whatever. Maybe you could for once give an answer without bringing the Bible or Christianity in. But then again, maybe I am just asking for the impossible.
     
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    #550
    lol maybe you could wakeup and stop blindly following man made doctrines, oh sorry im asking for the impossible.

    I already answered your question, i don't think there is a 'most feared religion'.
    If there is and if it is Islam, i am the wrong person to ask, being a Muslim myself.

    I can tell you tho of a time when christians actually followed the bible, i think it wad the medevil era and in that time there was something called the crusades. That was very scary for a lot of people you know.

    You now its very hard being a Muslim, you actually have to do stuff... and if i wasnt certain/had any doubts this was the truth, i would not have followed even a little of it.

    The bible does nothing for me but prove your blind intellectual nature.
     
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    #551
    Since you're starting with Christianity again due to your insecurity, maybe you can also tell me the Islamic version of Mother Theresa. You heard of Mother Theresa, that catholic woman that devoted her whole life to people of another religion?? So, since they don't show it on Fox maybe you can tell me the name of the Islamic version of Mother Theresa. Her name is...?
     
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    #552
    LOL, ever heard this expression -- pot calling the kettle black?

    Actually i can get u an islamic version but what difference does it make, i can find you GOOD atheists, so what?

    Tell me do you base your entire faith on mother theresa? maybe jimmy swaggert lol

    Man, you really have stooped to a new low.
     
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    Just for my personal knowledge it would be helpful if you give me her name and i will read up about her/him ;)
     
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    #554
    You seem to talk a lot about growing up in some communist country.
    Which country was that ?
     
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    #555
    It wasn't Russia though we had to learn Russian in school. Let me give you one clue: the highest ranking official to desert his own country and move over to USA during the cold war comes from my country.
     
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    #556
    is it, Romania
     
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    Is that the answer or the question :D
     
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    The country your from, i read your clue, is it romania?
     
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    Yes it is. I thought it was my accent that gave me away. :(

    The clue: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Mihai_Pacepa : Ion Mihai Pacepa (born 28 October 1928 in Bucharest, Romania) is the highest-ranking intelligence official ever to have defected from the former Eastern bloc. He is now an American citizen.

    In July 1978, Pacepa was a two-star Romanian Securitate general who simultaneously held the rank of advisor to President Nicolae Ceauşescu, acting chief of his foreign intelligence service and state secretary in Romania’s Ministry of Interior. He defected to the United States following President Jimmy Carter's approval of his request for political asylum.

    Subsequently, he worked with American intelligence in various operations against the former Eastern Bloc. The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) described his cooperation as "an important and unique contribution to the United States".

    I think one of the very few smart things Jimmy Carter did was to approve this guy to come to US.

    Now, what's this doing on a thread about evolution ???
     
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    #560
    WOW! 28 pages! Incredible! I think my comment got lost back on page 3 or something.

    "There's none so blind as those who will not see" is the saying that comes to mind. Respect to all those who've argued for the rational, observable universe. Proteindude I kinda admire you for the way you've stubbornly defended the indefensible; it's like watching someone trying to stop the Titanic from sinking by attempting to bail it out with a coffee cup.
     
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