Do YOU believe in evolution?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by astup1didiot, Oct 29, 2007.

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Do you believe in evolution?

Poll closed Nov 28, 2007.
  1. Yes

    111 vote(s)
    75.5%
  2. No

    36 vote(s)
    24.5%
  1. pipes

    pipes Prominent Member

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    #501
    Missionaries, is part of their job not to go to places where the religion is not practiced and force it down the throats of natives who dont want it?

    From Africa to Australia, the jungles of south america to the most remote islands, you will hear of how they took christianity to the locals, the natives requested that help?

    Tribes and people who coped just fine living very minimal lives, free from western diseases, but what did westerners and missionaries take to them?

    Thats right disease, unwanted religion, rape and education that has no place in their customs and ancient survival skills, now sadly becoming forgotten because the old traditions are not passed onto the new generations, the westernised, baptised, sterilised generations.

    Missionaries, tut tut.
     
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  2. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #502
    AMEN BROTHER! :rolleyes:
     
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    sb1234 Banned

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    #503

    Like i said there are many, these were just the first ones i came to http://www.cpafrica.org.uk/

    please point out the corruption in that report, i think you are just trying to denounce it so you don't have to accept it.
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    #504
    Im started to sound like them, lol, too much religious talk, il be shouting like a gospel preacher next, this is sb1234's fault :) see what you got me doing. :p
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #505
    Someone earlier, I thing ssandecki, Said that they wished there was a god. While i would like there to be a Deist god, The idea of the christian god abhors me. Not only are we forced to abide by this gods rule on earth or face eternal hell but we are also forced in to continual worship after we die. Hitchens likened it for a celestial dictatorship, But he said at least in north Korea you get to die.

    The Deist god has no influence, makes no rules, Gives no punishment and doesn't take sides in wars, the christian god however seems to relish in the ability to punish you for eternity for crimes as simple as disbelieving while forgiving you for raping and murdering children. The christian god takes sides in wars, He randomly grants the prayers of some wholly unworthy people while ignoring the real victims and when it;s all done, As your reward, You get to lay the floor in front of him with rose petals and worship him for eternity.

    no thanks. Give me hell any day, it sounds a lot more fun.
     
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    #506
    Wow this thread has really 'evolved' lol, i don't think its even about evolution anymore.
     
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  7. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #507
    I think they have a nice warm cozy spot for us down there, I would image cold being more brutal then heat tho :)
     
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    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #508
    Well, it turned to its true question, is there a god or not. That really is the same question about evolution.
     
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    #509
    Well unfortunately you dont really get to choose what God satisfies your own worldly lusts.

    You want hell for eternity? Pick up a lighter and light it, now hold your hand over the flame, lets see how long you can keep it there. Not very long huh. Now imagine keeping it there for eternity, now imagine it being your whole body. You prefer hell over worshiping your creator? Suit yourself
     
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    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #510
    Now, go to sleep. Imagine this is what happens after you die.... forever. Not so bad is it.
     
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    #511
    You would have to imagine, because it is way off reality

    again please tell me why that report is corrupt. Or is it like i suggested, you are just trying to discredit it so you dont have to accept it.
     
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    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #513
    I now await your so called claims...

    "Thats not my church"

    "Thats not my Christianity"

    "Thats not my Belief"

    Well guess what, they do it in the name of your god, from your book, from your beliefs.
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #514
    "They aren't real christians"

    these people are so predictable.
     
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    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #515
    Yes they are. Like an annoying fruit fly, you swat it away only to have it return :D
     
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    #516
    You say you have read the bible, yet you associate things like this with true Christianity. If you have read the bible, specifically the new testament, you will know what Christianity is about.

    Now i brought up http://www.viva.org/en/introduction/...eport_2007.pdf this report, and you acted like you had specific reason that this was corrupt, i ask you to point it out, and you link me to other articles. When do you plan on responding to my question. On the specific article that you claim is corrupt. You disqualify all Christian related documentation. therefore indicating a closed mind. How could one even begin to debate with someone that disqualifies all Christianity with out regard to the contents.

    My point is this you claimed that that article was corrupt, and that you couldn't believe i would even post it. Yet in truth you know absolutely nothing about it.
     
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    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #517
    You asked for sources, I provided them. Its not my fault if you refuse to research.
     
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    #518
    As i thought, you have no reason or source to back up your theory that the report is corrupt. Just because one grape is bad, it doesn't destroy the vine. That seems to be the logic though, you seem to think that just because a few bad men claiming to be Christians made mistakes, that all Christians are just as corrupt. Now thats a flawed logic and would explain why you believe the ludicrous theory of evolution
     
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    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #519
    What makes more sense....

    1. Everything was create by a so called god, who is alone in his own "existance".

    2. Life evolved over billions of years.

    You do realize that EVERYTHING the universe is made out of is the same stuff basicly your made out of, so is it that hard to think that things evolved from each other?
     
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    #520

    to me number 1 makes the best since.

    even if evolution is correct and true, that (as i have been told by those in this thread) takes you down to one cell. Where did that cell come from?
     
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