Do YOU believe in evolution?

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Do you believe in evolution?

Poll closed Nov 28, 2007.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

    36 vote(s)
    24.5%
  1. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #481
    This is where he will ignored other sources, he never follows ones you post but expects you to read all of his.
     
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    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #482
    stOx, you just proved again how you are willing to ignore facts for the sake of winning an argument. According to the majority Jesus is the most influential person of all time.

    Of course you can find a minority that thinks otherwise.

    Now, I just did a search for Jesus on the entire www.atheists.org website for Mohammed and the search came up with the following: "Results 1 - 10 of about 66 from atheists.org for Mohammed. (0.11 seconds) "

    The search for Jesus, returned: "Results 1 - 10 of about 1,520 from atheists.org for Jesus. (0.06 seconds)"

    According to your own organisation, you have 23 times the amount of issues you have with Mohammed. Therefore it's easy to see that even your organisation agrees (23 times more) about who is the MORE influential one.
    I am just wondering where you get your figures/numbers from? And then you come up with some silly insinuations.
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #483
    Of course atheists.org are going to mention jesus more, Christianity is the more dominant religion in the country they are operating from. You are using a meaningless statistic as evidence for something it does in no way support.

    thanks for the laugh though, How much time did you waste digging up the info to make this redundant point?

    But let's extend your ludicrous logic to prove exactly hiow facile your argument is. A search for dave, a blogger on atheists.org returns 1,640 results. So by your logic dave is the most influential... that's how it works, Right? Dave pwns jesus, yes?
     
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    stormer320 Well-Known Member

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    #484
    yes i do beleive in evolution because everything has to evolve/grow up.....
     
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    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #485

    stOx, sometimes in your fight to win an argument you come up with some really foolish arguments. No matter how you try and respond now to justify your "superior" logic by pointing to some obscure list about how Jesus is NOT the MOST influential ever and then showing some totally unrelated stuff about "dave".

    My head is still spinning, but I guess as long as this nonsense makes "sense" in your head you should be happy and should go again and ask for another merit badge from your atheist club because again you "proved wrong" another Christian.

    Somehow, I think that the guy that would normally give you the badge will probably ask you on this occassion to "try again" or better still may write on your bagde "better luck next time". That is of course unless you are the one that gives the badges to yourself.;)
     
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    #486
    Give it up proteindude. Stox's "roundabout" to nowhere is well greased and is on rotation number 853 out of 853 trillion rotations. You will be dead a billion times over before it will come to stop :D
     
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    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #487
    You and me have our differences but I think this time I have to agree with you regarding stOx ;)

    I retain my right to disagree with you on other subjects but I agree there is no disagreement right now.
     
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    #488
    I'm sorry but in this case Stox is fully correct, an athiest group from the US is of course going to list the dominant religion in their discussions more than a much more minor religion.

    Who is in charge of the country, who tries to force their religion down the athiests throat? It's not muslim, it's christians.

    Proteindude your argument isn't even laughable, it's that far out of touch from reality.
     
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    #489
    I personally would rather there was a god, it would be nice to know after this life we have something to look forward to. I've yet to see any proof of this, sorry but the bible isn't enough, anyone can't write and book and make millions believe its false truth. Its happened before and will happen again.
     
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    #490
    God could come down stare you in the face and say I am God, then fly away on a chariot of white horses, and you'd say it was just a product of wind and cloud formation, which some how carried the sound of someones television, while watching the ten commandments. You dont want to accept God, and the reason is simple that you would have to admit you were wrong.
     
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    #491
    Couldn't the same be said to you?
     
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    #492
    Good point.
     
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    #493
    Its a simple image.

    1. You are the creator of all things.
    2. You want your creations to obey and follow you.
    3. You give creations free will.
    4. They don't obey you.
    5. They are punished for using the free will given by the creator.

    Ya, there is something to live by.
     
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    #494
    If an animal evolved before my eyes, i would accept it to be true.

    You seem to be under the impression we are here to be worshiped by God, you have it backwards. He created us to glorify him. And when we do not he becomes unhappy. The results of his unhappiness are up to him. We don't worship God because he is the great loving thing, we worship him because he is God, and he brought us into this world. We worship him as if he were our father, because he is.

    And i do not believe in free will so let me clear this up now.

    when we come into this world, We are under the power of Satan. to do his will. Until we hear Gods calling, and repent of our sins we do not have free will. Once saved, then you have free will, then you chose to do good rather then evil.

    Until you are saved, you will not willingly do godly things. You may do things that seem good, but they are the devils work one way or the other.
     
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    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #495
    Your insane, animals AND humans are always evolving, open your eyes.


    Typical religious crap, worship me for I am divine. Total chicken crap, this is so silly.
     
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    #496
    So every single person should be under the power of satan too i guess?

    Even the most Holy figures for some people in this world could be seen as massive sinners, the Pope for one, he will be in luxury tonight most likely, while a few more kids in third world countries pass away, he did nothing to help them.

    Why dont all of the priests, bishops, rabbis, monks, nuns, jehovah's, mormons, brethren, take off their hats, helmets, robes and everything else, then roll up their sleeves and go do some actual saving of people and make the difference that they eternally preach that everyone else should be doing.

    What makes them so special, so elite? why not come from behind their alters, lower their hands, get down off their stands and mix with the diseased, the poverty stricken, the desperate, the weak?

    Be seated among their followers, not distanced from them.

    Why the pyramid of levels and secrecy? why keep fortunes when it could be spent on the very people they preach about helping?

    Why? why? why?

    Why should anybody do it if the churches and their preachers and so called strong followers wont do it first?

    If im going to hell, then your coming with me sb1234. :)
     
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    #497
    He might just go to hell for not believing in the right god! :rolleyes:
     
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    Hehehe :):)
     
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    #499
    My sins have been paid for by the blood of christ, i will not go to hell. I accept Jesus as my savior, i will not go to hell. You mock him and spread satans lies, you will go to hell if you do not repent.

    as for your comments about christians and other religions rolling up their sleeves, hane you hear of missionaries,

    http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Briefs/10733.htm

    http://www.monabaker.com/pMachine/more.php?id=A3023_0_1_0_M

    http://www.viva.org/en/introduction/our_work/viva_report/viva_report_2007.pdf

    just some of the many
     
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    http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Briefs/10733.htm

    - Good, they need money to kill more Muslims. Not like that money could of went to the THOUSANDS, no wait, MILLIONS of starving and dying children in Africa, oh wait there black! Lets fund who can kill our enemy the muslims. Hey, just like the crusades!

    http://www.monabaker.com/pMachine/more.php?id=A3023_0_1_0_M

    - Just read above statement.

    http://www.viva.org/en/introduction/our_work/viva_report/viva_report_2007.pdf

    - This program is PLAGUED with corruption, I can't believe you even posted this report.

    Takening care of your own I see.
     
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