Do YOU believe in evolution?

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Do you believe in evolution?

Poll closed Nov 28, 2007.
  1. Yes

    111 vote(s)
    75.5%
  2. No

    36 vote(s)
    24.5%
  1. pipes

    pipes Prominent Member

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    #301
    If Jesus was here, would he sign Autographs? i mean hes pretty famous :D

    He may not find work straight away on earth, with all of the other cults and religions around, he would have a harder time of it this time around maybe? more opposition.
     
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    #302
    Believe in evolution, sure, maybe. I believe that viruses can mutate which might be a form of evolution. Do I believe we are who we are because of evolution? Absolutely not and there is not enough scientific evidence prove it so.
     
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  3. stOx

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    #303
    It doesn't apply to atheism though. Atheism dismisses all gods. You on the other hand have decided there is a god and have decided which one it is.

    The question for atheists is "god or no god?" - Atheists decide no god.

    For you there are two questions "god or no god?" and "which out of the thousands of gods is it?" - And by some amazing feat you claim to know the answer to both questions.

    let's look at that statistically. Even if we assume the chance of there being a god or not is 50/50 there is a 1 in 2 chance the atheist will be right (or 50% probability).

    With your proposition you are 50/50 likely to be right about the existence of god, But over 10,000/1 against when it comes to picking the right one (if we use the conservative estimate of there being 10,000 gods proposed in history).

    So the chances of me being right (if we assume the chance of god existing is 50/50) is 1 in 2. The chance of you being right is over 1 in 10,000 (probability of 0.009%).

    Statistically i am far more likely to be right that you are.

    Probability of me being right: 50%
    Probability of you being right: 0.009%
     
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    #304
    Yawn, i have debated so many atheists and i always find the same sub-logical arguments.

    To you be your Way, and to me mine. ;)
     
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    #305
    Not sure where you are getting your umbers but you are way off, 10000 gods? your also giving yourslef a 50 50 shot when the true odds are more like 80 : 20
     
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    #306
    yeah, I didn't think you'd have an answer for that post.
     
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    #307
    There are 2500 known deities and it is estimated that if we include all tribal gods and the multiple gods of some religions the number reaches around 10,000. I can redo the math using the 2500 known deities if you want, But you will still lose.

    Either god exists or he doesn't.. That is 50/50.
     
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    #308
    See i have had this argument so many times but i will give you one reply and then i wont reply anymore because it feels too much like deja vu...

    Statistically speaking, if you say no God, you reject all those 10,000 too, so the chances that there is not a God for you becomes 1/10,001.

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    There is only 1 true God, its because they got corrupted by man, this is my belief.
     
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    #309
    I'm not rejecting them. I'm rejecting the possibility that any god exists.
    You are embracing the notion of god, and only then do you have to decide which specific god it is.
     
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    #310
    Actually based on scientific studies its closer to 70 (God) 30 (no God)

    http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/sciences/story/0,12243,1164894,00.html
     
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    #312
    Perhaps, but it still doesnt change the fact, that if there are so many Gods, 10,000 as you say, these gods have followers, so if you say each god has 10 followers. thats 100,000 people that believe in a god. Now what are the odds, that you, or even the minority of athiest are right over them.
     
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    #313
    I have already explained to you, Amount of belief does not equal truth.
    There was a time when most people believed the earth was flat, didn't make it so.

    Eventually the idea of god will be as laughable as the idea of a flat earth is now.
     
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    #314
    I dont think so, God has been around for at least 6000 years, and numbers of believers are only getting larger
     
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    #315
    "numbers" may be increasing, but that is due to a population explosion. Percentage wise belief in god is plummetting like a stone.
     
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    #316
    if this is true it is only due to the corruption of the world, the worlds acceptance of, immoral practice, foul language, television, bad music etc. The world is to blame if there is a decrease. All which is mentioned in the bible, when describing the end of times.
     
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    #317
    The world certainly is responsible, But it's the science that is responsible.

    Christians make up an inproportionate percentage of prison inmates compared to the proportion they make up in society. I believe the stat is; Atheists make up 13% of the general population and 1% of the prison population.

    You only have to look at what types of people are atheist to see what types of people are religious. Dawkins, Dennett, Harris, Hitchens, Sagan. All great minds and vastly intelligent people, All atheists.

    The trend seems to be the higher educated you are the more likely you are to a) be atheist b) be successful and c) be law abiding.
     
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    #318


    Now your reaching, you cant say someones spiritual belief has anything to do with success, wisdom and knowledge. Even Darwin accepted Christ. There are numerous Christian men that are successful and intelligent.
     
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    #319
    Darwin originally had a belief, but that was normal at the time. when his daughter died he rejected entirely the notion of a personal god. so you can stop with that church made lie right there. Darwin was NOT a christian.

    And i didn't say no christians could be smart or successful, i said there is a trend that shows atheists tend to be smarter and more successful.
     
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    #320
    Darwin on his death bed repented from his old beliefs, right?
     
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