Do YOU believe in evolution?

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Do you believe in evolution?

Poll closed Nov 28, 2007.
  1. Yes

    111 vote(s)
    75.5%
  2. No

    36 vote(s)
    24.5%
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    #241
    No. That would be man not following his guidance and doing things all by himself. Besides, I have never read the Book of ssandecki ;) I hear there's not much to read :D
     
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    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #242
    I can't lie, its full of a lot of non sense. In the end, you just feel like you've begun all over again! :rolleyes:
     
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    #243
    Many have different beliefs, but personally this is what I believe. He was just there from the beginning. He is timeless, eternal, and immaterial. He created time when he created the universe. It is impossible for humans to fully understand God.
     
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    #244
    Thats just BLAH, all religious people claim the fact We all have a creator, then answer who created god :)
     
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    #245
    Well, that's your view and respectfully you are entitled to it.

    Col :)
     
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    #246
    God has given us freedom. Think about it. If you were a God, would you make robots that worship you 24/7? Or would you give them freedom and see who chooses to worship you.
     
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    #247
    Interesting...

    He gives us so called "freedom" but if we don't do what "he" wants we go to hell? Thats not freedom, thats socialism :D :D :D
     
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    #248
    No, he clearly warns us in the Bible pretty straightforwardly that the only way to get into Heaven is through Christ. You are free to choose whatever you want, but you have been warned.
     
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    #249
    Hell does not exist in the Bible. That's man's incorrect interpretation of the scriptures. Go do some research on the word "Gehenna". You will find it was a piece of land outside the city used for incineration and they kept pouring sulphur and tar onto it to keep it burning. Sound familiar?
     
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    #250
    Hell is mentioned in the New Testament various times...
     
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    #251
    Really? Show me the greek symbol for Hell and then show me the Greek symbol for Gehenna and then show me which verses it says "Hell"
     
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    #252
    Gehenna = Jewish Hell?
     
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    #253
    I wonder what would happen to my closet if I never bothered to put things right or in order. If I just kept piling things in there and never cleaned up. Would they clean up by themselves? What you think?
     
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    #254
    Your clothes don't reproduce...
     
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    #255
    Wouldn't you get some spontaneous combustion and somehow life would appear and then the clothes line themselves up and put themselves in order?
     
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    #256
    What exactly are you trying to say, God is a house made and he/she'll clean up your closet for you?
     
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    #257
    What I am saying is that wouldn't it be logical that if left to itself the closet, or the clothes in the closet would somehow find a way to put themselves in order. Given plenty of time I mean such as billions and billions of years
     
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    #258
    That's like asking "if you prayed hard enough, wouldn't the clothes line themselves up and put themselves in order?"
    Besides, we're talking about organic evolution here, not any sort of chemical evolution.
     
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    #259
    Look further down in Wiki:

    Etymology

    The word is derived from the Greek, ultimately from Hebrew: גי(א)-הינום‎ Gêhinnôm (also Gai ben-Hinnom (Hebrew: גיא בן הינום‎) meaning the Valley of Hinnom's son.[1] The valley forms the southern border of ancient Jerusalem and stretches from the foot of Mt. Zion, eastward, to the Kidron Valley. It is first mentioned in Joshua 15:8.[1] as a deep, narrow ravine at the foot of the walls of Jerusalem where refuse was burned. It is here that the bodies of executed criminals or others deemed unworthy of a proper burial were dumped. The association with hell derives from the tradition that the Canaanites sacrificed children to their god Moloch in this place.

    New Testament

    In the synoptic gospels Jesus uses the word Gehenna to refer to the place where sinners are punished after death.[1] It is a place where both soul and body will be destroyed (Matthew 10:28), a place of "unquenchable fire" (Mark 9:43).

    In the Gospel of Matthew 23:33, Jesus observes,

    "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of gehenna?”

    The word gehenna is also found in the epistle of James, where it is said to set the tongue on fire.

    Most Christians understand gehenna (hell) to be a place of eternal punishment. On the other hand, annihilationists, such as Jehovah's Witnesses, understand gehenna to be a place where sinners are utterly destroyed (like garbage in a burning dump), not tormented forever.

    The New Testament also refers to hades as a destination of the dead and of those who will not be exalted in heaven (Matthew 11:23). However, hades is portrayed as a different place from gehenna.
     
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    #260
    No it wouldn't, inate objects don't evolve. Is this "closet theory" going to be your defence in why evolution does not exist?
     
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