Me and my friends debate this all the time. Do you have to kiss ass to go up in the world? It goes on everywhere. Whether it's the ass of your boss at your workpace or a guru. Is that the only way to go up? Much of it goes on in here as well, infact a lot. You people know who you are. Oh _________ is my hero, my guru. I wish I could be like them. Then mentioning the same thing OVER and OVER in multiple posts ALL over the forum. It makes my stomach turn It's ok to thank a mentor (or guru) for helping them find the path, but to over kiss them to an extent where they actually want to make internet marketing love with them, especially in a public forum - it that right? Perhaps it's just me and my thoughts. What do you think? ADEEL CHOWDHRY