Do u belive in God or Science?

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  1. pakistanihaider

    pakistanihaider Member

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    #321
    God is truth.
    Science is observations of things which already exists.
    i dont know any good qurani Ayaat to explain. but i can explain you like this.

    See and observe each and everything in this world.
    You see thing that is made in this world by man kind had his creator who created it.
    So how comes it that with a big bang theory this air have been made then water then soil on which we walk then the creation. Let suppose according to science human were kind of monkeys that were evolved to human. Now how they came to being.
    THe plants the well designed way of our universe where each and every planet revolves around the sun with out any delays or any other problems..

    THis is all going very deep. What im trying to say everything that have been made have its creator nothing happens unless you apply some action.Right there is also a newton law on that too that unless and until the exterior action is done on an object object will not move. Then how comes this all happen without anyone interfaring.


    The Second point is science is not old then the Holy Quran or Holy Bible. and i must say that quran is 14000 years old. So guess was this scientific technology did excist at that time. Well one things is proven if they can have arabic language and can have quran then they surely were not anything else then human it self. They were normal human beings.

    So when did science started to know about things they were predicted before the science proved it.

    search the google for miracles of quran.

    and you will find many predictions many scientific methods related to quran and you will be amazed how did they came to know about our century.



    Im not asking or telling to anyone here to believe in islam or any other religon.

    Im asking to not judge something or someone whiteout knowing the facts.

    There is a big history. and if any one is intrested to look forward to know that they are on righteos part search for it. search The muslims books, read and observe muslims culture and also christian or any religon you believe is to be true read about it,

    Trust me you will be amazed by it.

    Regards
    Haider
     
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  2. The Webby

    The Webby Peon

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    #322
    I already am.. I'm amazed by the level of gullibility some people show..
     
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    #323
    I believe in God, and people having different religions, respecting their beliefs, but that doesn't mean I want to listen to an old man ramble for an hour about him. I also believe some science, some science is correct, some of it is just an illusion to cover up false aspects.
     
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  4. The Webby

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    #324
    Care to share what you think is 'illusion'?

    I'm assuming that you know the difference between fact and theory..
     
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    #325
    It good to read the post, I agree you. YES, It's science to made the human but it's the god to make the human destiny.
     
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    #326
    Science is also a creation of God. I believe on both Good and Science.
     
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  7. OmarJames

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    #327
    Science making a way to explain everything. I believe in God. I believe a little in science :)

    OJ
     
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    #328
    This is perfectly said.
     
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  9. masoneya

    masoneya Greenhorn

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    #329
    This kind of question the only one can answer it is an (Academic) person !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  10. Rukbat

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    #330
    The question isn't whether you believe in science or religion, both of them exist, so the question is which, if either, do you accept as being correct.

    "Believing" in science is like believing in water.

    As far as I'm concerned, I accept as objectively real what I see objective evidence for.
     
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  11. 0ccul7

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    #331
    I believe in God
     
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  12. WiraTheGreat

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    #332
    Science is God, and God is science...
    I believe in myself to colaborate both..
     
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  13. g36

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    #333
    If the "god" is the "divine invisible beings" made by religion, then NO.

    My definition of god:
    * What created all the creatures
    * What gives us life
     
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    #334
    God = The Universe
    Jesus = Fictional Character
     
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  15. hokesantoso

    hokesantoso Greenhorn

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    #335
    i belief both
    God is The God that can not be the reason in logic and science because He the substance is unlimited , whereas science is the result of human thought which is limited ( limited time, limited age, limited brain)
    sometimes i think how much our brains can accommodate all of science in this universe?
    I prefer that what is told in all the scriptures or all the religion on the world. this reminds us that there is more power than us in this universe and make me exist in this universe

    but frequently there is something funny word , religion bigger than God whom created this universe
     
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  16. anggaman

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    #336
    science don't provide life ethics, heaven, and hell
    that's enough for me to choose God over science
    wait..i'm a scientist. whatever
     
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  17. 5/1 Generator

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    #337
    Science is a tool. You hypothesize and experiment in order to test the relations between variables. Belief shouldn't have anything to do with it. Of course, that's the idealized version of it, and as practiced, most people who "believe" in science are believing in the institutions of science, and whatever popular sentiments are being expressing by those institutions. Most people, when learning of a new scientific discovery or theory, don't actually seek out the journal in which the study was published, examine the author's methodology and check against the other research in the field to develop their own ideas about what's going on. That's what really "believing" in science would entail.

    The real proving ground for science is technology. You can't argue with technology that works.
     
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  18. 5/1 Generator

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    @hokesantoso: I'm usually biased against non-native English writers, but I'm quite aligned with your point of view. A lot of people tend to have the idea that all our established knowledge and advancement is as good as it can possibly get, and it doesn't occur to people that our great-grandkids are going to look back on the early 21st century and think, "damn, what a bunch of ignorami." I can't get into Mad Men for that reason--I'm not going to look back at how things were fifty years ago with a sense of smug moral superiority. Everything builds on what came before.

    It's not an easy thing to wrap your mind around, but it is possible to distinguish between that which is made up by the human mind for the benefit of the human mind, and that which is out there but has to be apprehended by our human minds. Philosophy dug itself into this big, existential hole, and has yet to emerge--they can't get out of their heads, and a lot of it is still based on the kind of thinking that led Descartes to declare "I think, therefore I am," which is just plain wrong. You were born, therefore you are. It's perfectly possible to be, and not think.

    I don't doubt that there are powerful forces at work of which humans are merely a component, but I think that the notions of God expressed by established religions are inadequate because they are based on a humanity that doesn't exist anymore. We're not the same people we were two thousand years ago.
     
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  19. c-lo

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    #339
    Thank God! Or science.

    Not only are the notions of God expressed by established religions inadequate, they are sometimes flat out wrong...and dare I say evil. An example?

    "When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)"

    Yeah, maybe that part's not quite up to date. Hard for me to believe an all-knowing being would not only condone, but command, the sexual enslavement of his creation.
     
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  20. Jrschrider

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    #340
    I think the question is worded in a bad way. Science and religion don't always have to fight, I just don't believe in any science that disagrees with the bible.
     
    Jrschrider, Oct 12, 2011 IP