Do submissions to directories actually get reviewed?

My parents? I'm not a kid like you - I'm a grown man and help my parent make decisions.

Everyone has beliefs, are yours more valid because you're a 'christian'.

I tried to find a listing on your blog to prove to you that all roads lead to damnation, but even in the most likely places all I could find were empty categories. I see why it's called CantUFind

And from your pm

Best laugh I've had all week Spat me pork kebab and beer all over the keyboard when I read that.

 

Fair enough, although your not really acting grown up are you? They say attack is the best form of defence and you seem to feel the need to attack? All I said was that I disagree with your views and I'm absolutly certain no matter how old you are your parents would disagree with the crap on your site.

I'm not going down the road of arguing with you over what's right or what's wrong and I'm certainly not going to help you destroy a very healthy debate with your rather sad attack on my simple opinion. You could have just posted, 'well I disagree', even your Parents would have told you that.

You gave your age away when you said about a pork kebab and beer being spilt on the keyboard. Trust me, ADULTS would never do that!

 

So could you.

Stop it please, my keyboard is now floo

 

Another perfectly good thread burns in the embers. Some times morals lead the way in life, anything as indepth and 'personal' as your sex life has no need to be on the internet, nor should there be such a desire to read about it, never mind actually linking to sites about that topic. Such subjects are far from family safe. At the end of the day, cantufind is doing a damn good job at keeping a family safe search running - always remember empty categories (which fyi, are actually being populated as we speak by their team) are far better than promiscuous site listings.

Just my 2 cents

 

It really just depends on what directories you are submitting to.

 

I do not think it means you are stricter, it means we have differing views, with no rights or wrongs as each owner accepts or declines on those views, in that i am still strict with my views.

our lines go like this and is in relation to what swedal was chating about above.

 

I for one think there is a lot of validity to that definition for family friendly. Todays families including children are exposed to television, newspaper and radio every single day. Because of that one could say that the advertisements that society has deemed allright for those mediums should also be ok for directories. After all children get much less exposure to that content from a directory than from those other easily accessible mediums.

On the flip side I cannot honestly say that I completely follow that description because there are some legit businesses that can advertise in those mediums that I have problems with listing. I had a very long discussion with DU about one in particular as I try to be very careful about any personal beliefs I may have affecting the decision.

But that is more of a "me thing". Since the directory is mine the guidelines are also mine to set, just like every other directory owner.

 

I disagree DownUnder, especially if your saying that you agree that subject matter such as sex toys and escorts are 'Family Friendly'? Sex shops invariably offer direct access to the most explicit of pornography, its their biggest earner. Nothing family friendly about that.

Escort Agencies, well without trying one I'm only second guessing based on the many sites I've looked over, they all pretty much offer sexual services, a good definition is on wikipeadia, and you'd have to be naive not to believe otherwise although it may not always be the case. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escort_agency First two lines.

Either you or someone else commented on justifying family safe as something allowed in media? The internet is a very different ball game, the media is a piece of paper that is hugely restricted to blanked out pictures and moderated text. The internet is nowhere near as restricted so that argument pretty much falls flat.

I'm not saying Cantufind's Saint Theresa attitude on safety is the right one but what I would say is that it is very well thought out one and certainly a lot stricter than those that claim to be family friendly.

You set up a poll on a site independent of directories and forums like this and ask a hundred thousand families what would be viewed as family friendly and what is not, I'd bet every cent I have on the outcome, and it wouldn't contain pornography even soft porn for the reason explained above.

Thanks for bringing the subject back into focus though, its interesting and regardless of differences of opinions its good to discuss issues more important than 'submit to my PR1 directory' or 'What's the best directory script' for a change.


@Swedal; sorry, you was posting at the same time as me. Your wrong when you say....

There is a thing called a watershed on television, certainly in the UK, and probably many other Countries. There are also VERY strict regulations on what can be advertised in newspapers and magazines. I've not once in my 20 something years ever heard an advert for pornography related material or escort agencies being aired on a radio station? It is a FACT that society and the LAW has deemed that the medium you comment on are highly regulated. The internet isn't which is my point.

 

That's were this puppy comes into play

 

Ya, it's work.....Do it...

 

It is ok to have differing views and at the some time respect others views as i respect yours.

But until some one tells me that a phone book is not family freindly and these phone companies are peddling unsafe material i will stay on course, many of these publications have a page in reference with a big url slahed ocross the page, i see no difference

yes that is what an escort agency does, it is one of the oldest professions in the world, around long before the www

Prositution is also legal and governd in many countries.

No i don't buy that the editor can also apply those rules to the www. although most would not

again the family freindly claim has 1000 meanings one does not make it better than another, it's just personal view, i think there is much more crap than that to worry about.

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you would be right porn is porn but not related to sex toys or similar.

all is good. each Directory owner will make the calls that best suit their agenda and in these days and times it is a tough market, so those calls can sink your business and each call must be measured.

 

It's what makes the world an interesting place DownUnder.

A phonebook is completely off tangent and can't be compared to the internet. Take the Blinkers of DownUnder, you can't see anything other than print in phonebooks, and these little bits of print are heavily restricted with what descriptions they can provide, you don't see pictures of sex in a phonebook!. How on earth can a link to a GRAPHIC website be compared to a piece of text that is in print? There IS NO COMPARISON!

Yes it is, and although being an Escort is legitimate in most Countries the selling of sex certainly isn't, which is what most escorts do. Again, you need to realize, just because its been around forever and a day it doesn't make it family friendly. Your married DownUnder? Ask your Wife the question if it would be okay for you to go to an escort, or to eyeball their sites, I'm betting she'd slap you around head. They are for NON family types.

Come on, your getting ridiculous now, next thing your going to tell me prostitution is family friendly?

It has ONE meaning but many levels to how you interpret what is family friendly. Its the only crap I want to concern myself for the next year, then when I decide on being a teaboy lawyer I'll possibly worry about that. Until then I'm sticking to my principles. It won't affect people like you DownUnder and how can I or anyone else who shares my views be put down for caring about family morality? Just a little differently but still caring nonetheless.

Show me a shop that sells sex toys that doesn't also sell porn!

Of course they will, and thanks for the discussion, as I said this is a far more interesting topic than half the repetitive crap on here, and as long as we don't force each others opinions on each other then all is definitely good.

 

disagree many phone books are online

ah yes sunglasses at night,

any man that does that must have rocks in their head

? i have some classy nudes as screen savers and have listed sex toys, both of which my wife has no problem with, also go out on the town from time to time and visit all of the hot spots with the boys, tell the trouble n strife up front with no problems. and i love it when she slaps me

: well that i will leave or the debate will go for ever , but it can be in some cases yes for both parties.

No it does not , many people have differing views of family freindly

No one i can see is putting you down, i applaud your stance and views, it just does not fit all views of family freindly

that i suppose is like me saying i wont list auto because there are hoon drivers, as adults we all make choices as to what we want

all is good

 

I dont understand Jamie how could that statement be wrong? If those types of ads are on these other public mediums has not society said they are all right? I did not in that statement there say escort services were in that medium - They are not in the US. Sex toy shops are on television, billboards and radio here in the states as long as they are done in a tasteful way.

I am not talking about porn here as you are - you don't see porn on public tv at least not in the US. But there is validity to the arguement for some of those businesses that fall into grey areas and can be advertised on other public mediums. There are tastefully done billboards and tv ads here for sex toy shops though that is one area I find very tough.

The US has a very anti gambling stance overall but UK does not have a problem with gambling so who is right. Maybe gambling is not family friendly.

Point is that Jamie you can have your opinion like everyone else can and can use those guidelines on Cantufind. That does not mean your view is the only view or even the correct view.

I try to keep AD as clean as I can from those grey areas, but also will not go telling others that their views are wrong about what is family friendly or not. There is just way too much ambiguity in the term.

 

I would go with Swedal here.. Definition of family friendly differs from person to person and they are also governed by culture and laws of the society around you.

In India liquor brands or tobacco brands (including cigarettes) can't advertise their brands in ANY form of media including television, radio, print. Tobacco brands can't even do surrogate advertising (liquor brands can) Definition of "family friendly business" as something that can be legally advertised in other media is not accurate. I am sure everyone of us has wineries and brewers in their directories.

I could see sex toy and male enlargement pill (for the lack of better words) ads on television channels in states but they wouldn't be accepted as family friendly in many countries.

It's difficult to define universally acceptable guidelines for deciding on family friendliness of a site. You have your definition and others have their own

 

Not necessarily, just because they are on other public mediums doesn't mean that they are accepted by the family audience.

There will always be a grey area of what's acceptable to the public and what's not hence the reason for legislation on what can and cannot be advertised on billboards to use your example.

Great point on the gambling issue as I'm one who does like a flutter, in fact I won on Spain beating Russia earlier one. And yes, in the UK gambling in the UK is accepted, but under strict regulations, trust me on that as I've worked for Ladbrokes to help pay for extra beer money while studying.

An example of why Gambling could and should be seen as family friendly is that there are many aspects to it such as bingo, one of the most popular games for the housewife not only in the UK but around the Globe. The Grand National and horse-racing is extremely popular with families, the Grand National being one of the biggest grossing family gambling opportunities on the planet.

But its regulated Swedal, which is the point I'm making. Everything should be regulated to a degree, it has to be, to what level is up to individual preference when it comes to our subject of directories, mine just happens to be different to yours.

Of course I was entitled to point out that you were wrong to compare static medium to the internet, they are entirely different arenas, one heavily regulated and one that is not. You were wrong to say that because one was acceptable then so should the other be nothing more. Your views were valid, your example wasn't as wasn't your example of sex toys on T.V. I'm sure they don't offer you adverts on XXX films when they advertise sex toys, a quick phone call to someone in the States told me this just a moment ago. On the internet its anything goes which is why its so unsafe.

I think we can definitely agree on the ambiguity, it will always be a topic worth debating. Especially when idiots come along and red rep me with comments like this...

To that anonymous poster...Learn how to spell before calling me Judgemental.

 

I can say that I have never seen the male enlargement pills advertised in any other medium in the states other than online. That is absolute spam in my opinion.

Plenty of viagra and cialis type ads on tv here though.

And Jamie you make a very good point on the XXX movie adverts on sex toy pages and that is why I also said I personally have a very tough time with that kind of site even though I do see the validity as to why others may choose to accept them.

 

Jamie I know one that doesn't sell anything put sex toys according to a friend of mine who said there no books or movies just going by what she told me now

 

here is a link to our national yellow pages phone directory , yes also online. This is advertised national on tv . radio and in papers.

call it as you will

link

LINK

 

I was wondering if craigslist is also advertised in TV, Radio etc. I think they have a similar section.