Do sites in frames get PR?

Discussion in 'Google' started by crumblepie, May 8, 2008.

  1. #1
    One of my sites uses frames. My homepage index.html contains a frameset. What happens to the PR in this case?

    If my index.html gets some PR, and my links are in a frame, will my links get any link juice?
     
    crumblepie, May 8, 2008 IP
  2. Dreads

    Dreads Well-Known Member

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    well not right now.. google's pr theory doesnt calculate iframed websites.
    I am sure google bots can pick it up.. but usalyl they only count
    <a href> and possibly if u have small javascript tags inside the <a href>
    but anyhting else they dont..

    Yet best way to check is.. go to your website's google cache and then view its source and if you find those pages linked, and inside the right tags, then they are being counted
     
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    brian65 Active Member

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    I think the answer is - they might. Try reading this page http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=34445
    to see if it gives you the info you need.

    I guess if you can avoid frames then do so. I have pages that appear in frames buried very deep in my site. They never appear in any stats on my site. I don't want them to be landing pages so it's OK for me but I'd be a bit wary of structuring my homepage this way just in case.
     
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  4. crumblepie

    crumblepie Well-Known Member

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    I just checked the cache and it appears blank, though when I check the source code, it shows the links to the frames. Does that mean the links aren't counted?
     
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    rainborick Well-Known Member

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    #5
    Google crawls, indexes, and assigns PageRank to pages in <frames> (or <iframes>) just fine, and such sites can compete in the rankings. But there are difficulties that arise when a page that is designed to be contained within a <frameset> appears in the search results. You need to provide a mechanism for reloading such a page into the proper <frameset> page. Overall, it is very cumbersome and not worth the trouble. You will be much better off using a conventional navigation structure for your site.
     
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    ameran Well-Known Member

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    Never use frames and iframes because you cannot be found by search engines, if you use them.
     
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  7. crumblepie

    crumblepie Well-Known Member

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    Ok thanks for the tips everyone! :)
     
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    redhits Notable Member

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    #8
    I don't know if you will get or not, maybe you may get if you will also use an link to that iframe/frames from an <noscript></noscript> tag ...

    anyway it's suggested by most searches engines to not use FRAMES and IFRAMES
     
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    greatme Active Member

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    #9
    webframe's are not visible by search engines so u dont have to use it
     
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    sheds Peon

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    #10
    Still i am not getting any good back links which i have made through blog commenting,,,

    So , i am sure frame and iframe works for counting backlinks,

    If you are planning for your own website,

    Suggestion not to use it...
     
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    SandisV Active Member

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    #11
    Open the framed part in separate window and see if GTBR gives you any PR. Of course, if the page is linked only from the frame page.
     
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    I guess no , not now until bot can go through iframe.
     
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    davidgeo Banned

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    #13
    Search Engines do crawl, index and rank sites that has iframeset, but the links, content inside the framset doesn't count.
     
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    angilina Notable Member

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    #14
    I suggest you don't use frames.

    There are many compatibility issues with frames. Also, I think search engines also don't like it. So I guess you will have problem with your site's PR because you the frames.

    Read this

    google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=34445
     
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  15. trichnosis

    trichnosis Prominent Member

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    i think yes, they will get pr because google will follow href and src tags on a page and iframe codes are like <iframe src=... .
     
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  16. ErnestHemingway

    ErnestHemingway Well-Known Member

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    #16
    I am not sure
    I think cache code might help with this.
    You sure get the traffic hits.
    But it would be great to know if it actually gives you the PR juice
    which means people can actually link to few sites without showing it to others..
     
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    enous Well-Known Member

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    #17
    I think it dont get pr..but maybe display the index.html's pr at the toolbar
     
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    #18
    It has not changed one of my PR4 sites in 9 months when I added iframe from another one of my other programs as a part of the content on the PR4:
     
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    Link.ezer.com Peon

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    #19
    Shall not be related to PR.

    Iframe is similar to pop-up.

    If it is related to PR then may have a lots iframe with width=0 or height=0 isn't it?
     
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    #20
    Actually, if you say frame, it is enclosed so that it will never get any link juice.
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    htt://dcglobal.us/ourstaff-websupport.htm
     
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