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Do outbound links help rankings?

Discussion in 'Google' started by DinoCagney, Sep 7, 2008.

  1. #1
    I heard outbound links can HELP rankings....

    Does anyone have any proof of this???
     
    DinoCagney, Sep 7, 2008 IP
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    live-cms_com Notable Member

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    I doubt it would help much.
     
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    tendulkar2 Banned

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    #3
    No. Outbound links can't help your rankings... and they may decrease your rankings if you link to irrelevant sites.
     
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    atulperx Banned

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    They will takeout juice from your web page page rank like juice extractor machine lol . Outbound link always hurts never helps to build page rank .
     
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    outbound links take away from your page rank unless you make them rel nofollow. However when Google crawls your site it checks out other links on your page and if they are all closely associated with your site niche, then this may have some benefit, because Google may see this as being very relevant content
     
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    it will help to the outgoing link, not your site.
     
    hbseo, Sep 8, 2008 IP
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    How does everyone know that it doesn't help for sure?
    Anyone done any experiments?

    It's an interesting question. Surely all good content you read has references? Thats what Google may believe. It depends on how academic the content is but its always good practice to put references in. Google MAY see the links as relevant and think its a good page for content and can direct the visitor to more relevant and useful content. It will obviously benefit the linked site more, but I believe it can be good to have some relevant links.
     
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    Yes they help, only to websites you link to :)
     
    Jonathan Hue, Sep 8, 2008 IP
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    If they do help then everyone wud give outbound links to most popular sites relevant to their sites niche and cud earn benefit.................

    But it's myth they help, so might be they help to ur site but not for benefit just for loss ...........
     
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    I personally don't think they do, but have read that linking to high PR sites within your niche can help.

    That said, i don't follow that thought pattern myself;)
     
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    I know about benefit this is only trust factor you get from Google. Still i am not sure but i think so...........
     
    schgrv, Sep 8, 2008 IP
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    #12
    Wow there are a lot of unjustified and just plain wrong answers here. Placing outbound links on your site will in no way affect your page rank. Just check the publicly available formula regarding that; it is only inbound links that play any role in your page rank.

    Secondly, there have been suggestions in the past that linking to closely related authority sites does in fact help the relevance of a page. It hasn't been proven nor has it been disproved but I for one feel that as long as Google are trying to improve user experience then they might favour sites which do actually link out to other useful content because after all isn't this what the internet is all about - sharing information?
     
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    If you have many outbound links the pagerank being passed from your homepage to your sub-pages is decreased, so I think YOU are wrong. :D
     
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    Yes that is true but it seemed to me that you were making the statement that linking out to other sites from a page will affect the pagerank of THAT page.

    Now you are moving on to discussions about OTHER pages and site architecture which are equally valid.

    So I'd say that we were BOTH wrong but also BOTH right at the same time :D
     
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    My apologies, it was not you who made the comment about losing pagerank from a page by linking out from it...but you get the gist of what i was trying to say.
     
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    I think the OP is taking about SERPS rankings, he never mentioned PR.

    Proof is hard to come by, as with most ranking factors (because lots of other things are always changing at the same time), but my testing has shown a small but significant benefit by linking to authority sites from a page. Typically moving one position up the SERPS (eg from no 7 on page 1 to no 6 on page 1)

    I think it does make sense that google give more authority to a site that links to other authority references, because it's making your site more useful to your visitors, which is in part what they looking for.

    And contrary to what people often think, you're not sending people away from your site by including useful links - at least not in the long term - you're encouraging them to bookmark your site and keep coming back because it's useful.

    DinoCagney, why not try it? You won't lose PR or SERPS because of it, and you might just benefit. You don't need to link to someone you're actually competing against, just a couple of good authority sites in the same niche.
     
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    If this was the case dmoz & Yahoo directory could have not PR#8 which has million of outgoing links. I think they channelize outgoing links into their page in such a way that it does not harm and obviously they're getting tons of backlinks. IMO itdepends on your internal linking structure and the number of quality backlinks you're getting, if you've lesser backlinks even pointing your links to authority site would not help you, don't pass your link juice through outbound links, if you would like to do, make them "no follow".
     
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    For me, I believe one or two outbound link would still be ok and it doesn't hurt to have it there. Just imagine if you have a blog post that talk about fast cars and inserting a link to F1 official site would still be ok because it is actually providing a helpful link so that your visitors learn more about relevant topics. SEO point of view would go against but naturally I think it’s alright.
     
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    Won't give any proof here - but yes I have seen it works under certain circumsdances - and very, very well.
     
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    This is true and proven.. absolutely. But remember there is a big difference between PageRank and SERPs.

    In my personal experience this is also true. I have experiences pages to get higher rankings if they page has an outbound link to an authority site with about the keywords that you are getting inbound links for. However, I do think it's a fine ratio, and that you need to be careful not to have to many.
     
    PhilG, Sep 8, 2008 IP