I don't sell any product that has an email sign up or ever directs a customer to another place. I don't sell any product that give a customer a 7 day free course. I don't sell products that have drop in email sign ups. I look at the sales page and it needs to be very clean. If it has any of these things I will walk away and never look back. In fact I run! A note to all the new product creators. If you want an affiliate don't grab emails from your sales page!! I would sell something in CB from a new person rather than an old successful item if it doesn't have any kind of distracting items on it's page. (things are changing) I even have thought of making products from some of these niches with this general idea behind it. If you want sales from affiliate marketers your going to have to follow along with what we want from you!! We run in packs of tens of thousands do you want us running for you? You had better have a light bulb moment right now because even if your product is good. No one will ever know because your offering 7 day courses and taking down emails... TAKING DOWN EMAILS HOW DARE YOU!!! I am a person who gathers emails and sells straight to my lists!! You don't think we know in time your going to sell to the list we are building for you!! Even in one month your going to email those people and get a sale we should have had the first day! You had better find a new way!! I'm so angry I cant even think straight right now
Man! When I saw this product I was about to promote it until I left the page and came across the direct link...From that point it was WTF that F**CKING idoit.
Water4Gas, Run your Car With Water, and all other products in this category do not suggest a car can run only on water. It is clearly stated that the conversion kit is supplementry, not a replacement of the engine. A real water-run only car is non-economical because of hydrogen production. Apparently, hydrogen doesn't fly around waiting for you to store it, so it needs to be produced. Producing hydrogen is a polluting reaction if you want to do it in big scales (which means not using electrolysis). Please, stop being so anti-water fuel before checking all the facts. If they were a scam, they would not be the two top products on ClickBank with refund rates many publishers envy. nadavs
There are people who actually have applied the methods from water4gas and run your car with water , type 60 mpg escort on youtube , You'll see a guy who has applied the method and is getting 60 MPG !!! This devices won't double your mileage, you won't save that much, but in some cars they'll get you 20-30% better fuel efficiency (maybe more) it depends on the car, engine and other factors. So yes, it can be sucessful, but not in all cases.
I haven't been marketing any of these water to gas products yet but thanks for bringing this to everyone's attention.
I'm suspicious and skeptical of this reply. It's very likely this guy's thinking is really something like this - "I was hoping that I wouldn't get caught ripping off my affiliates, but now that they've caught me, I'll play dumb and smooth things over with them. They're stupid anyway, so they'll believe me and keep sending me customers." It seems that if some people achieve a certain level of success in manipulating people, they feel that they can escalate their efforts without alerting all the stupid 'sheep' that hang on their every word and blindly accept everything they say as absolute truth. Another case in point is a recent promotion run by Matt Bacak. You probably received several email messages promoting the story that he was retiring from internet marketing and was 'giving away' all his secrets that made him millions of dollars for just a $1.00 shipping fee. The promotion didn't reveal that when you entered your credit card number to pay for the $1.00 shipping fee, your credit card was also setup for an automatic monthly charge of $29.95 for some sort of membership. People didn't realize this was happening until some time later when they received their next monthly invoice from their credit card with the $29.95 charge from Matt Bacak. When tons of people were taken in by this lowdown, dirty SCAM from this b*ast*rd, his defense was that he 'didn't realize that he had set it up that way'. What a crock of crap. I would NEVER buy anything from such a SCUMBAG again and I hope that there's so many other people that feel the same way that Bacak is forced into retirement because no one falls for his big line of BS anymore. It looks like the vendor who's the original subject of this post is doing the same thing as Bacak - Damage Control. Think about this - Darren (the vendor) says 'Our product is new to clickbank so we hadn't got around to changing that discount link' - but he DID have the time to set up a payment link that bypassed the affiliates. He then goes on to say - 'to be honest, very few of the total sales are discounted, so affiliates got credit for basically everything' - this translates to 'So I screwed over some affiliates in order to make more money for myself. So what? There weren't that many of them, so who cares!' One of the big advantages of being a Clickbank vendor is that you have access to a huge base of affiliates that will promote your product, at their own expense, in exchange for getting a commission on actual sales they produce. How do you think those affiliates are going to feel if they're blatantly cheated out of the commissions they earned? Darren, imagine how you would feel if somebody did this to you - you wrote articles, posted them to numerous article directories, made forum posts, built blogs and websites, wrote PPC ads - all for the purpose of promoting an affiliate product, only to find out that the vendor was cheating you out of your commissions. Shame on you Darren and ALL the other vendors that stoop to such lowdown tactics.
We should see if we can sticky clickbank vendors who do this type of thing so we know which ones to avoid, it would save alot of affiliates being ripped off. Anyone know how we could go about doing this?
i doubt something like this will be a sticky at DP (we all know how many great threads are here and none of them get stickied) I guess you could start a thread called "bad vendors" or something to create awareness and let affiliates know how they can avoid vendors like this.