Do links generated by article submission disappear over time?

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by diogenes, Mar 31, 2010.

  1. #1
    I heard some place that many of the articles that get placed don't get archived. Therefore the backlinks they provide disappear over time.

    True of most article generated backlinks?

    True of some article generated backlinks?

    Not True?
     
    diogenes, Mar 31, 2010 IP
  2. zexy

    zexy Guest

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    As long as the article is indexed in Google the links won't disappear. Submitting your articles to established article directories should do the job.
    Low quality article directories get penalized by Google everyday, they get de-indexed and what not so submitting to them doesn't work well in the long run.
     
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  3. sultanofseo

    sultanofseo Notable Member

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    you mean archive or index? if you do mass article submission, then it is natural that not all the article directories will have your articles indexed. but the article pages that got indexed will pass link juice. try to submit to a good list of sites for better result
     
    sultanofseo, Mar 31, 2010 IP
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    i have noticed that some links do disapear over time
     
    ratcatcher, Apr 1, 2010 IP
  5. asghar.paracha

    asghar.paracha Well-Known Member

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    I use Ideamarketer for article posting and for backlinks, they have some worth. do u guys have any experience with this article website? is this webiste good or bad?
     
    asghar.paracha, Apr 1, 2010 IP
  6. 2RGmarketing

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    Use tools dude. they always help... try FreeArticleSubmission.org
    i use it and it does what you want.
     
    2RGmarketing, Apr 2, 2010 IP
  7. social-media

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    Not all of the article links disappear (unless they eventually get deindexed)... but almost ALL submitted articles lose their effectiveness over time. When you first submit an article, it will be linked to from the "Recent Articles in <insert category>" on the submission site. This page is typically a pretty high PR page as pages on submission sites go... maybe PR2 or 3. Once more and more articles are added in that category, it will eventually get dropped off the recent articles page (i.e. lose it's most powerful inbound link) and eventually be accessible only thru the archives and author profile pages. If the author submits articles frequently it will usually roll off the author profile page to the 2nd, 3rd, etc. page of author articles. So over time if it's not losing links, the links left are typically becoming weaker. And unless you've built inbound links to your article, it will often get dropped eventually from the search engine indexes.

    This same phenomenon occurs in blogs and forums.... When you first right a blog post, it's linked to from the home page, category page(s), and archives page... After 10 more posts, it typically rolls off the home page (and therefore loses it's most powerful inbound link). Eventually, after you add 10 more posts to the category it will typically roll off of page 1 in the category to page 2... eventually page 3, page 4 etc... So it's more and more links away from the main category page... so those links get weaker and weaker. Same for forum posts as they move farther and farther back into the forum pages.
     
    social-media, Apr 3, 2010 IP
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    I think the articles that are indexed and stay in the website will provide links for a long time. Just hope that Ezinearticles wont disappear anytime soon.
     
    scheng1, Apr 4, 2010 IP
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    It is actual only for an expedition of indexing a site. To increase other metrics the given method it is inexpedient.
     
    Kapitan, Apr 4, 2010 IP
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    Depends on the article directory mostly. If you're using the higher quality one's like Ezine and Buzzle those are going to stay basically forever. Some of the lower PR home page directories will be a different story though.
     
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    If there indexed....they count!!
     
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    Well once you're article is indexed and it's passing link juice, unless it is taken down, it will most likely count as a backlink still.
     
    Kotesh, Apr 4, 2010 IP
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    I do a lot of article submission and my links always show up in webmasters tools
     
    khaxan, Apr 4, 2010 IP
  14. social-media

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    Nofollow links and links from URLs known to be under penalty (both of which do NOT count) appear in webmaster tools as well. So don't think that just because a link appears in Google WMT that it "counts".

    As long as the page where the link is on is indexed, followed, and has not been devalued completely for some other reason (like a penalty) it counts. But my point in the previous post is that even among links that count, some links pass more "juice" than others. And the amount of "juice" passed fades over time with unnatural link building techniques like blog commenting, forum sigs, and article submission.

    When you comment on a new blog post at a particular blog, that post generally has links from the blog's home page, 1st page from any category in which it appears, and 1st page of the archive for the month in question... so if the post where you comment is indexed it passes a lot of juice primarily because it is linked to from the home page of the blog. Once the blogger writes 10 more articles, however, that post will roll off the home page and lose it's links from the home page. Now it's only linked to from the first page of the category and archives. Once 10 more articles are written in that category, it rolls to the 2nd page of the category which causes it to lose even more "juice" because now it's linked to from the 2nd page for that category (an extra link away from the home page) and the 1st page of the archive. If the blogger posts 10 more post (in any category) in that month then it will roll off the 1st page of the archive to the 2nd archive page (again another click away from the home page) so it passes even less "juice".

    This same thing happens with forums and article submission sites.

    So while the links are "counted", they almost always lose their effectiveness over time. They provide a nice boost in the beginning but typically fade in strength and become lower quality, weaker (yet still counted) links. The only time this is not the case is if 1) it remains linked to by the home page indefinitely (Like if it's added to a "Favorite Posts" widget on the blog) or 2) it gains inbound links from external sites after dropping off the home page. This means if you use blog commenting, forum sigs, directory submission as link building techniques you have to continue to build links just to maintain your current rankings.

    Links from traditional web sites (non-blog/forum/article submission sites) do not typically experience this phenomenon because there is no notion of most recent posts, most recent threads, most recent articles on traditional web sites. Once a page is created and linked from other internal pages on a traditional site, it generally remains there. So links from traditional web sites tend to not lose their effectiveness over time. All you really have to worry about is keeping the page indexed to continue to get full credit for most links from traditional sites. These links are harder to get (because it means you can't "plant" the link on another site yourself), but once you have them they provide long-term "juice" unlike the short-term link "juice" provided by unnatural link building methods (like blog commenting, forum sigs, and article submission).
     
    social-media, Apr 7, 2010 IP